has anyone grown Favorie De Bretagne or Black Icicle? - Page 2

Lindalana · November 4, 2015

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Originally Posted by Fiishergurl

Do you have a link to the pictures on that forum?

Thanks
Ginny

See if this link works
http://www.tomat-pomidor.com/newforu...c,1085.20.html

Fiishergurl · November 10, 2015

Yes that worked. Thank you so much!

Ginny

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Growing West · November 21, 2015

I bought black icicle and about three other varities (one was black pearl) a few years ago from Baker Creek. It was like the rest from that order. It wasn't stable, and fell way short of description for flavor, yield and appearance. I subsequently wrote that company off for tomato seed purchases. My melon and squash purchases from Baker Creek have faired much better, though.

Cole_Robbie · November 21, 2015

Interesting. I have black, yellow, orange, and pink icicle to try next year. There is a red, too. I will definitely limit the black to just one plant.

Growing West · November 22, 2015

I have trialed quite a few of the more-recently developed Russian varieties that are supposedly stable. My motivations for doing this are two-fold. I have been gardening further north in Minnesota and Montana than where I grew-up and started in Kansas. If I stll lived there, I am sure I would have tried less of these. My second reason is that the first of the non-heirloom (recent commercial) Russians I tried was Japanese Black Trifele, which quickly became one of my all time favorites. This just had to signal the start of a happy trend, right?

Well, what I've found is that many of these varieities have been brought here by a few people with some conflicting, and at times patently false, stories about the origins (fingernail length may be like pinocchio's nose if you see that in some of these pictures). I have also found that appearance and shape often trumps taste and that stable isn't necessarily so. I am not talking here about the true heirlooms from Russia or it's neighbors like the Ukraine. If you look at the pictures of Black Icicle that are now on Baker Creek's site, they look a lot different than the ones from four or five years ago on that site. Then, they looked more like, uh, black iciciles.

Cole_Robbie · November 22, 2015

I am also becoming a big fan of Russian (and Chinese) varieties. Every time I find someone with an ebay/amazon/etsy store selling heirloom tomato seeds that look new to me, I will inevitably dig up an old tomatoville thread with a lot of critical comments about the seller.

goodwin · November 22, 2015

I may have grown the two. I got seeds for Black Pepper (which could be the same as Black Icicle) from Ted and it turned out to be a good sauce tomato. It has quite an

unusual shape.

The Favorie de Bretagne seed I used came from Russia and it was a compact plant and very productive. I haven't grown Green Sausage for comparison, but people at the market liked the flavor of Favorie.

Lee

November 10, 2015	#17
Fiishergurl Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oak Hill, Florida Posts: 1,781	Yes that worked. Thank you so much! Ginny Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk

November 21, 2015	#18
Growing West Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2015 Location: Montana Posts: 21	I bought black icicle and about three other varities (one was black pearl) a few years ago from Baker Creek. It was like the rest from that order. It wasn't stable, and fell way short of description for flavor, yield and appearance. I subsequently wrote that company off for tomato seed purchases. My melon and squash purchases from Baker Creek have faired much better, though.

November 21, 2015	#19
Cole_Robbie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois, zone 6 Posts: 8,407	Interesting. I have black, yellow, orange, and pink icicle to try next year. There is a red, too. I will definitely limit the black to just one plant.

November 22, 2015	#20
Growing West Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2015 Location: Montana Posts: 21	I have trialed quite a few of the more-recently developed Russian varieties that are supposedly stable. My motivations for doing this are two-fold. I have been gardening further north in Minnesota and Montana than where I grew-up and started in Kansas. If I stll lived there, I am sure I would have tried less of these. My second reason is that the first of the non-heirloom (recent commercial) Russians I tried was Japanese Black Trifele, which quickly became one of my all time favorites. This just had to signal the start of a happy trend, right? Well, what I've found is that many of these varieities have been brought here by a few people with some conflicting, and at times patently false, stories about the origins (fingernail length may be like pinocchio's nose if you see that in some of these pictures). I have also found that appearance and shape often trumps taste and that stable isn't necessarily so. I am not talking here about the true heirlooms from Russia or it's neighbors like the Ukraine. If you look at the pictures of Black Icicle that are now on Baker Creek's site, they look a lot different than the ones from four or five years ago on that site. Then, they looked more like, uh, black iciciles.

November 22, 2015	#22
goodwin Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Espanola, New Mexico Posts: 606	I may have grown the two. I got seeds for Black Pepper (which could be the same as Black Icicle) from Ted and it turned out to be a good sauce tomato. It has quite an unusual shape. The Favorie de Bretagne seed I used came from Russia and it was a compact plant and very productive. I haven't grown Green Sausage for comparison, but people at the market liked the flavor of Favorie. Lee