Pole beans - Page 3

Tormato · August 15, 2017

Kwintus, Northeaster, and Early Riser have all been distributed as the same bean (Kwintus=Early Riser, Northeaster=Early Riser) . Whether they are all different, two are the same, or all three are the same is lost on me. I'll keep trialing white seeded, very early, stringless, large, flat, green podded varieties under those names to see if I can find any possible difference in them.

August 15, 2017

Tormato, thanks- I will be interested in hearing your results. At 83 years of age, I just don't feel like attempting any long range trials! But there has been a lot of variation in my harvests, and I don't know what causes it. Some of my beans will grow in a semi-circle instead of straight- no clue why-is it heat-winds, ? I will continue watching this thread to get all the help I can--I love my beans!

Tormato · August 16, 2017

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Originally Posted by JoParrott

Tormato, thanks- I will be interested in hearing your results. At 83 years of age, I just don't feel like attempting any long range trials! But there has been a lot of variation in my harvests, and I don't know what causes it. Some of my beans will grow in a semi-circle instead of straight- no clue why-is it heat-winds, ? I will continue watching this thread to get all the help I can--I love my beans!

I wouldn't rely on Kitazawa for accurate info. They do have a good selection of rarer veggies, though. They still list Akahana Mame and Shirohana Mame as common beans (P. vulgaris), whereas they are runner beans.

As for your curled beans, very likely weather related. There are some varieties that always grow curled, like Garrafal Oro, and Anellino Giallo (if I remember and spell correctly). For me, GO grows somewhat semi-circle. I sent seeds to someone out in the high desert/mountain country, and they grew complete full-circle. When a pic was posted at another site, almost everyone was astonished, having never seen anything like it.

PhilaGardener · August 16, 2017

Favorites of mine too. Here are (left to right) Fortex, Trionfo Violetto, and Goldmarie.

efisakov · August 17, 2017

Thank you for all recommendations. I will look it up. Some earlier posted varieties were sold out. I ordered and planted (August 1st) Blue lake bush 274 and Purple Teepee to try this year. Will order new once for text year.
Gold Marie sold by Rareseeds are yellow in color. I assume it is the same variety as Goldmarie. Have great reviews. Interesting that it was getting high remarks in Canada and Arizona.
Found these filet beans on:
http://www.territorialseed.com/categ...let_beans_seed
thanks again

PhilaGardener · August 19, 2017

I believe Gold/Maire is the same variety, with or without the space.

Just sent you a pm.

Sun City Linda · August 20, 2017

I have some Kwintus left in an old Park envelope. Maybe I will try and grow some this Fall. I've never had a lot of success with beans. Are you supposed to soak the bean before planting? Some forums say so but I don't recall ever seeing that in the seed envelope planting instructions.

PhilaGardener · August 20, 2017

I often germinate indoors - soak or place on damp towels - before planting, particularly if I am trying to get a jump on the season or have concerns about seed viability. Just make sure the seeds aren't too deep because you want them to get plenty of oxygen.

efisakov · August 25, 2017

Thank you all. It helps with the key words.
Found Mascotte French Filet Bean Seeds in Park seed. Sounds great for the containers.

Spike2 · August 25, 2017

This is really my first year in growing pole beans. We have always grown the bush type so I felt the need to expand. Well Lord Honey! I did not expect the vines to be battling to the death with the corn and anything else in their way. Picking beans off my zinnias and corn just cracks me up. I am sure that my neighbors are wondering what the hysterical laughter is all about coming from my garden . . . I will be better prepared next season lol

Tormato · August 25, 2017

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Originally Posted by Spike2

This is really my first year in growing pole beans. We have always grown the bush type so I felt the need to expand. Well Lord Honey! I did not expect the vines to be battling to the death with the corn and anything else in their way. Picking beans off my zinnias and corn just cracks me up. I am sure that my neighbors are wondering what the hysterical laughter is all about coming from my garden . . . I will be better prepared next season lol

Picking pole beans off your corn is two of the "three sisters".

You think you have it tough? I have one bean plant that grew up a tomato plant and then swung over to a branch on my mulberry tree.

And, it was supposed to be a bush bean!

Nothing prepares you for bush plants turning into pole plants, except for having a few extra poles on hand.

JRinPA · August 26, 2017

I had that happen last year - I ran out of "pension" bush beans and I filled in the end of a row with bean trade beans marked as a type of bush bean. Well, they ignored the writing and later the verbal warning I issued, and shot up the cucumber trellis in the next row. Turned out to be a beautiful pink and green pole bean. Worked great because the cucumbers caught the virus wilt in no time.

efisakov · August 25, 2017

That brings a question. Are bush beans better for successive planting, so they should be pulled once production is slower? Are pole beans last the whole season?
Thanks.

Nematode · August 27, 2017

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Originally Posted by efisakov

That brings a question. Are bush beans better for successive planting, so they should be pulled once production is slower? Are pole beans last the whole season?
Thanks.

I find that if pole beans are kept picked clean so no pods mature, they produce all season.

Father'sDaughter · August 25, 2017

For me bush beans produce in half the time needed for pole beans, so next year I'm not setting up the bean tower.

I've only grown a few bush varieties, but they all produced a bumper crop, took a break for a couple of weeks, then as long as the plants stayed healthy they would produce another good sized crop. After that, they're pretty much done.

Next year I'm sowing two batches two weeks apart in the spring, then in July after the garlic is pulled, I'll sow two more batches also two weeks apart.

This year my eight post-garlic bush bean plants are producing a large fistful every day after just five weeks in the ground. The pole beans were planted in the spring and are just recently producing beans.

August 16, 2017	#4
PhilaGardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Near Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,940	Favorites of mine too. Here are (left to right) Fortex, Trionfo Violetto, and Goldmarie. Last edited by PhilaGardener; August 16, 2017 at 09:36 PM.

August 17, 2017	#5
efisakov Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NJ, zone 7 Posts: 3,162	Thank you for all recommendations. I will look it up. Some earlier posted varieties were sold out. I ordered and planted (August 1st) Blue lake bush 274 and Purple Teepee to try this year. Will order new once for text year. Gold Marie sold by Rareseeds are yellow in color. I assume it is the same variety as Goldmarie. Have great reviews. Interesting that it was getting high remarks in Canada and Arizona. Found these filet beans on: http://www.territorialseed.com/categ...let_beans_seed thanks again __________________ Ella God comes along and says, "I think I'm going to create THE tomato!”

August 25, 2017	#9
efisakov Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NJ, zone 7 Posts: 3,162	Thank you all. It helps with the key words. Found Mascotte French Filet Bean Seeds in Park seed. Sounds great for the containers. __________________ Ella God comes along and says, "I think I'm going to create THE tomato!”

August 25, 2017	#13
efisakov Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NJ, zone 7 Posts: 3,162	That brings a question. Are bush beans better for successive planting, so they should be pulled once production is slower? Are pole beans last the whole season? Thanks. __________________ Ella God comes along and says, "I think I'm going to create THE tomato!”

August 15, 2017	#1
Tormato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MA Posts: 4,966	Kwintus, Northeaster, and Early Riser have all been distributed as the same bean (Kwintus=Early Riser, Northeaster=Early Riser) . Whether they are all different, two are the same, or all three are the same is lost on me. I'll keep trialing white seeded, very early, stringless, large, flat, green podded varieties under those names to see if I can find any possible difference in them.

August 15, 2017	#2
JoParrott Guest Posts: n/a	Tormato, thanks- I will be interested in hearing your results. At 83 years of age, I just don't feel like attempting any long range trials! But there has been a lot of variation in my harvests, and I don't know what causes it. Some of my beans will grow in a semi-circle instead of straight- no clue why-is it heat-winds, ? I will continue watching this thread to get all the help I can--I love my beans!

August 19, 2017	#6
PhilaGardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Near Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,940	I believe Gold/Maire is the same variety, with or without the space. Just sent you a pm.

August 20, 2017	#7
Sun City Linda Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: SoCal Inland Posts: 2,705	I have some Kwintus left in an old Park envelope. Maybe I will try and grow some this Fall. I've never had a lot of success with beans. Are you supposed to soak the bean before planting? Some forums say so but I don't recall ever seeing that in the seed envelope planting instructions.

August 25, 2017	#10
Spike2 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 992	This is really my first year in growing pole beans. We have always grown the bush type so I felt the need to expand. Well Lord Honey! I did not expect the vines to be battling to the death with the corn and anything else in their way. Picking beans off my zinnias and corn just cracks me up. I am sure that my neighbors are wondering what the hysterical laughter is all about coming from my garden . . . I will be better prepared next season lol

August 26, 2017	#12
JRinPA Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: SE PA Posts: 965	I had that happen last year - I ran out of "pension" bush beans and I filled in the end of a row with bean trade beans marked as a type of bush bean. Well, they ignored the writing and later the verbal warning I issued, and shot up the cucumber trellis in the next row. Turned out to be a beautiful pink and green pole bean. Worked great because the cucumbers caught the virus wilt in no time.

August 25, 2017	#15
Father'sDaughter Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: MA/NH Border Posts: 4,917	For me bush beans produce in half the time needed for pole beans, so next year I'm not setting up the bean tower. I've only grown a few bush varieties, but they all produced a bumper crop, took a break for a couple of weeks, then as long as the plants stayed healthy they would produce another good sized crop. After that, they're pretty much done. Next year I'm sowing two batches two weeks apart in the spring, then in July after the garlic is pulled, I'll sow two more batches also two weeks apart. This year my eight post-garlic bush bean plants are producing a large fistful every day after just five weeks in the ground. The pole beans were planted in the spring and are just recently producing beans.