Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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View Poll Results: Can you tell the difference between the red and pink tomatoes? | |||
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116 | 83.45% |
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8 | 5.76% |
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15 | 10.79% |
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#31 | |
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a
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In post #8 or 9 in this thread I posted about epidermis color but didn't say that much about it,so here's an example. After Craig L got sent seeds for Anna Russian from Breda H in Oregon,he saved seeds and sent some to me. http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Anna_Russian You can see that I got it from Craig who listed it in 1989 and in my tomato book I noted that after he saved new seeds he sent them to me and I grew it out shortly after that. When I first saw the fruits they looked RED to me, so I also SSE listed it and called the fruits red, but I was wrong. Imagine that, I once made a mistake. ![]() After that I learned how to tell if a fruit was red or pink, and that was good since many times I've been sent seeds for a variety by someone and the fruit color is not specified or I wanted to check myself. So here's what you do. You have a red control, a variety that everyone agrees it's red, peel off a small piece of that thin epidermis and place it on a stiff piece of whitepaper,do the same for the pink control as well. Most folks grow both known reds and pinks in a season so it shouldn't be hard to find controls Then peel off a piece of epi, from the experimental one.Then hold up the red control in front of that paper and it should be yellow,do the same with the pink control and it should be clear,then,aha,do the same with the unknown one and if yellow it's red,if clear it's pink. But it's not all that simple,since not everyone sees the same colors and minerals in the soil plus weather can also influence color as well. There's also a layer underneath the epi that contributes to color. On page I think 52 in my heirloom book I noted that the fruits of Anna Russian could be red or pink depending on several variables, but also noted it was PINK. If you want to see a classic kerfuffle about fruit color go to the sticky threads near the top and look for the one titled ALL THAT GLITTERS is not Gold, from idig years ago.You'll laugh,you'll cry, and show all ranges of emotions,so read it,please, when you have time. Carolyn
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#32 |
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Join Date: May 2012
Location: massachusetts
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I must be missing something, are there desirable traits linked to pink or red varieties?
Looks like some prefer pink flavor in general. |
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#34 |
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Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Zone 6a Denver North Metro
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A fine red is a freight train, a perfect pink is a carousel.
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So says the Denverite growing in the metro area where I used to grow tomatoes as well.
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#36 |
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Join Date: Aug 2015
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It's true, it's true. Chapman was the best tasting red in my garden last year, bold and crisp, but not the nuances and complexity of a Rebel Yell or Crnkovic Yugoslavian. The reds lack the taste harmonization of sweet on the front your tongue, but tart to the rear. Like a sour patch candy, but much sweeter overall. Pink's rule, I don't get that whang from a red.
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#37 |
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Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Dallas, TX
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Amazing the % of people that won't admit that they can't tell the difference visually.
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#38 |
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Den of Drunken Fools
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#39 |
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Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: NewYork 5a
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Nice pic/survey. Easy on my screen. I suppose some computers would make it
impossible. Surprised a couple dozen people can't see it. Good learning tool. |
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#40 |
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: MA
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Worth voted twice. Once before the beer, once after.
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