General information and discussion about cultivating onions, garlic, shallots and leeks.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Augusta area, Georgia, 8a/7b
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The garlic is coming up way faster than it has the last two years. It was planted Sep 27 after the weather finally cooled off a bit and then the 90's came back. One variety, the Maiskij, started poking up just seven days later. I took this pic of the Maiskij this morning, the 12th day after planting. About 4-6” tall on average. On the other side of the bed, the Scilla only has one or two up as it’s done the past two falls.
![]() I don't know if this early push is a good or bad thing. Does anybody know? It's mulched so hopefully the soil is staying cool. Temps are supposed to break and cool off next week. On a hunch I checked my daily temperature data for the Sep-Oct ‘16, ’17 and ’18. Then I figured an average daily temp for the time between day of planting and day of first poking up. No significant variance. However for the month as a whole, this September was hot; the average daily temp was five degrees above the past two Septembers. We had 20 days with highs above 90. The previous two Septembers had 11 and 7 respectively. My guess is that the soil temp was a lot warmer this year at planting time but I don’t have any data on that. If that is the cause, it seems that the Maiskij has been affected a lot more than the Scilla. I guess we’ll see if it has any overall effect on the Maiskij in the long run. Maybe ready earlier next spring? |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Lawrenceville, GA
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Southeastern PA
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I usually don't plant until October here but I have had years when the leaves got taller than I expected due to a warm Fall but there was no detrimental effect on the heads when i harvested.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Mid-Atlantic right on the line of Zone 7a and 7b
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Curious why you guys in the south would be planting so early (relative to those of us up here in zone 7) that plant late October - November to avoid the warm fall weather that would promote lots of top growth going into winter.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Augusta area, Georgia, 8a/7b
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Soooooo, I planted late September to get the longest growing window. Also, those first seed garlic bulbs I ordered arrived around Sep 6th and being a garlic newbie I didn’t know how long I could hold them before planting. They made a super crop so I repeated the planting time last year. Why mess with success? ![]() This fall I’ve had the added pressure of getting the garden in and on autopilot because I’m having knee surgery next Wednesday when a 16 year old knee replacement gets replaced. I’ll be out of gardening commission for a while and my sister Pickles will be doing the tending. However I think that I will push planting back into October next fall. |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Mid-Atlantic right on the line of Zone 7a and 7b
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Gotcha
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Den of Drunken Fools
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I have one coming up too from a failed attempt last year.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
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If winter isn't cold enough to damage the tops, then it shouldn't be any harm?
Lucky you, GoDawgs. ![]() ![]() I don't know about the turbans, but our hardnecks here put up with a lot of cold and frosty weather in some springs. We did have a bit of leaf damage this past year when it snowed in June - several times! - and I suppose it may have affected bulb size as this was not our best year (for any of the garlic growers I know locally) but certainly had no effect on survival afaict. |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Joplin MO
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I am planting garlic for the first time this fall. From info I have gotten from local garlic growers I am going to plant the end of Oct. I will see what happens and learn as I go.
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