3 cotyledon,4

slugworth · May 23, 2020

Cherry tomatoes from saved seed,unknown pedigree.
I had a 3 cotyledon and 4 cotyledon seedling.
The 4 cotyledon died on me.
The 3 cotyledon is still alive.
In the past I have noticed they have more foliage
then the norm.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC196586/

KarenO · May 23, 2020

There is a higher incidence of abnormal anther cone development in blooms and male sterility in poly cot tomato plants. Personally I cull any I see.
As I try to do with any even a bit abnormal seedling
KarenO

slugworth · May 24, 2020

In past episodes a 3 cotyledon will have about 30% more foliage ,
which comes in handy if your plants get blight and diseases during their lifetime.
I never saved seed from those,so I don't know if they are sterile.
A 4 cotyledon will have about 40% more foliage,why I had tears when that died.

Notostraca · May 25, 2020

Interesting to learn about seedling with more than 2 cotyledons, I've never had this happen with any of my tomatoes yet.

Fron the sounds of it, they are bad for saving seeds, but may have extra vigour? More foliage=more fruits or more sugar for the fruits from extra photosytnesis?

I would deffo baby any 3-cotyledon seedling I found more than usual!

Would be intersting to see how this one devolops and what happens with germination if you collect any seeds

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slugworth · May 25, 2020

So people annihilate them,I go out of my way to nurture,always on the lookout for mutants.
They do have more foliage,so even if sterile I clone plants anyway.
I can use them for cloning materiel.

slugworth · May 25, 2020

A clone of a 4 cotyledon
cloning the leaf was fun
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ghlight=clones

mcsee · May 26, 2020

Last season I grew a variety called Mandarina and ended up with some weird looking plants, one of which was a spindly tricot. It actually grew three leaders, so I decided to grow it, but gave up as it put on so many suckers, it wouldn't stand up properly.

Tricots and quadcots aren't all that unusual here as I've had them show up often. Years ago I could almost guarantee I'd get both if I grew Lime Green Salad seedlings.

slugworth · May 26, 2020

Like dog ate my homework deer ate my handiwork before they had a chance to set fruit.

ddsack · May 26, 2020

In past years, I've had a couple of tricots which I planted in the garden, but since I don't remove most suckers on tomatoes, after a few weeks all plants pretty much look the same. By the end of the season, I've long since lost track of which was the tricot. I don't keep production records for each plant either, so have not noticed whether or not they produce less. They seem to set enough visible tomatoes.

slugworth · June 8, 2020

I never noticed before,but using the paper towel method of germinating
I had a 3 cotyledon be the first to pop in a recent episode after 14 days.
Maybe with all that "meat" inside they are the 1st to pop.
I hope it lives long enough to add it to soil.

mcsee · June 8, 2020

It's probably best to take the extra leaders off and just grow as a normal tomato plant, save extra foliage problems as they grow.

slugworth · June 8, 2020

The tricot is now about 3x the size of it's siblings.
I think I will leave it alone.
I started the seeds may 1st and that plant would be big enough to put in the ground.

May 23, 2020	#1
slugworth Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: connecticut,usa Posts: 1,152	3 cotyledon,4 Cherry tomatoes from saved seed,unknown pedigree. I had a 3 cotyledon and 4 cotyledon seedling. The 4 cotyledon died on me. The 3 cotyledon is still alive. In the past I have noticed they have more foliage then the norm. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC196586/

May 23, 2020	#2
KarenO Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 5,931	There is a higher incidence of abnormal anther cone development in blooms and male sterility in poly cot tomato plants. Personally I cull any I see. As I try to do with any even a bit abnormal seedling KarenO Last edited by KarenO; May 24, 2020 at 01:45 PM.

May 25, 2020	#4
Notostraca Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Scotland Posts: 36	Interesting to learn about seedling with more than 2 cotyledons, I've never had this happen with any of my tomatoes yet. Fron the sounds of it, they are bad for saving seeds, but may have extra vigour? More foliage=more fruits or more sugar for the fruits from extra photosytnesis? I would deffo baby any 3-cotyledon seedling I found more than usual! Would be intersting to see how this one devolops and what happens with germination if you collect any seeds . __________________ Happy growing, Emilia

May 26, 2020	#9
ddsack Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Northern Minnesota - zone 3 Posts: 3,231	In past years, I've had a couple of tricots which I planted in the garden, but since I don't remove most suckers on tomatoes, after a few weeks all plants pretty much look the same. By the end of the season, I've long since lost track of which was the tricot. I don't keep production records for each plant either, so have not noticed whether or not they produce less. They seem to set enough visible tomatoes. __________________ Dee **************

May 24, 2020	#3
slugworth Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: connecticut,usa Posts: 1,152	In past episodes a 3 cotyledon will have about 30% more foliage , which comes in handy if your plants get blight and diseases during their lifetime. I never saved seed from those,so I don't know if they are sterile. A 4 cotyledon will have about 40% more foliage,why I had tears when that died.

June 8, 2020	#10
slugworth Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: connecticut,usa Posts: 1,152	I never noticed before,but using the paper towel method of germinating I had a 3 cotyledon be the first to pop in a recent episode after 14 days. Maybe with all that "meat" inside they are the 1st to pop. I hope it lives long enough to add it to soil.

June 8, 2020	#11
mcsee Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Victoria. Australia Posts: 543	It's probably best to take the extra leaders off and just grow as a normal tomato plant, save extra foliage problems as they grow.