Orange Jazz - Page 17

POAJoan · September 30, 2016

No, it was extremely windy and we had several patches of 90°to 100° temperatures during the day and down to 40s°at night. I was unable to get these into the ground until June 20, so I am very pleased that the result is as nice as it is. And it is not a huge plant which makes it all a very desirable plant for here.

Fred Hempel · September 30, 2016

Excellent. The high desert is such a challenging place to grow!

Fred Hempel · October 4, 2016

Orange Jazz seeds can be had now, along with Green Bee seeds for $6

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...?ref=user_menu

jtjmartin · October 4, 2016

BVV:

I was looking at your OJ pictures - what kind of spacing do you use between tomatoes?

Do you use black plastic (it almost looks reflective in some pics)?

Fred Hempel · October 5, 2016

The Orange Jazz shown on the Artisan Seeds Facebook page were growing in Mexico, at the farm of a close collaborator. They use black plastic, and I think their spacing is about 3 feet apart.

jmsieglaff · December 7, 2016

Hi Fred, I'm excited to try Orange Jazz next year. I'm curious if you've grown KBX and comment on how the two compare in terms of flavor and production? Loved KBX this year.

AKmark · December 7, 2016

Purple Bumblebee grew well for me outside in AK, I want to try Orange Jazz in the GH.

BigVanVader · December 7, 2016

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Originally Posted by jtjmartin

BVV:

I was looking at your OJ pictures - what kind of spacing do you use between tomatoes?

Do you use black plastic (it almost looks reflective in some pics)?

I space 3ft apart in a zig-zag, and yes that is reflective plastic. There are pretty easily managed plants compared to many. The also like fertilizer once a week. I think they would preform well in the GH Mark.

Cole_Robbie · December 7, 2016

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Originally Posted by jmsieglaff

Hi Fred, I'm excited to try Orange Jazz next year. I'm curious if you've grown KBX and comment on how the two compare in terms of flavor and production? Loved KBX this year.

I have grown the two side by side, and they are actually quite similar in both respects. OJ has a more variable fruit size, depending on weather. Striped tomatoes seem to fare worse in very cold weather. And OJ is not quite as sweet as KBX, but KBX is extremely sweet, so that's not a big negative. Some people might like more balance to the flavor than the extreme sweetness of KBX; OJ is still sweet, just not quite as much.

I'm done with other orange indeterminate beefsteaks after having these two varieties, to tell you how much I like them both.

jmsieglaff · December 8, 2016

Thanks for that, great info! How would you compare the production? For me last year KBX didn't give many fruits initially 3-4, but then ripened a number in late August - September. My plan in 2017 is to grow these two side by side.

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Originally Posted by Cole_Robbie

I have grown the two side by side, and they are actually quite similar in both respects. OJ has a more variable fruit size, depending on weather. Striped tomatoes seem to fare worse in very cold weather. And OJ is not quite as sweet as KBX, but KBX is extremely sweet, so that's not a big negative. Some people might like more balance to the flavor than the extreme sweetness of KBX; OJ is still sweet, just not quite as much.

I'm done with other orange indeterminate beefsteaks after having these two varieties, to tell you how much I like them both.

Barb_FL · December 8, 2016

I've grown them both as well along with Kelloggs Breakfast, always in a Root Pouch or Earthbox. KBX/KB is a larger plant than OJ.

KBX and KB production, taste, size were identical to me. I've grown the regular leaf KB much more.

I never considered KBX/KB sweet - it is my favorite tomato.

I find OJ very sweet and fruity tasting. On the sweetness, OJ wasn't as sweet as Lucid Gem or Orange Russian 117.

BTW - I'm having the best season ever with KB. Plants have over 20 tomatoes already and still setting fruit, none have ripen yet. I've never had that many in a season. (Note: it is the best tomato season is Florida for everyone here, my best FALL season ever)

BigVanVader · December 8, 2016

I think I got at least 20 tomatoes off every OJ plant, probably more. I haven't grown KB/KBX yet. I need to but I kinda missed SOO this year so I am going to grow it again in a better spot, but who knows maybe I can squeeze one KB in.

Fred Hempel · December 8, 2016

The problem with great seasons is that you start all seasons to be great!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barb_FL

I've grown them both as well along with Kelloggs Breakfast, always in a Root Pouch or Earthbox. KBX/KB is a larger plant than OJ.

KBX and KB production, taste, size were identical to me. I've grown the regular leaf KB much more.

I never considered KBX/KB sweet - it is my favorite tomato.

I find OJ very sweet and fruity tasting. On the sweetness, OJ wasn't as sweet as Lucid Gem or Orange Russian 117.

BTW - I'm having the best season ever with KB. Plants have over 20 tomatoes already and still setting fruit, none have ripen yet. I've never had that many in a season. (Note: it is the best tomato season is Florida for everyone here, my best FALL season ever)

LindyAdele · January 26, 2017

I wonder if anyone has grown Jazz or OJ in Ontario climates? Some of the main tomatoes Mr. Hempel works with do fabulously in my garden (striped roman, amana orange, black krim, black cherry) and the outstanding tomato for me last year was Maglia Rosa. I always grow blush and at least one of the bumblebees now. So can I make the leap that the Jazz lines might do well for me too? I have to be careful because I have 100 squarefeet of space, in the middle of a big city and not a farm. I am limited to 16 plants.

TC_Manhattan · January 26, 2017

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Originally Posted by LindyAdele

I wonder if anyone has grown Jazz or OJ in Ontario climates? Some of the main tomatoes Mr. Hempel works with do fabulously in my garden (striped roman, amana orange, black krim, black cherry) and the outstanding tomato for me last year was Maglia Rosa. I always grow blush and at least one of the bumblebees now. So can I make the leap that the Jazz lines might do well for me too? I have to be careful because I have 100 squarefeet of space, in the middle of a big city and not a farm. I am limited to 16 plants.

I understand your garden space is limited, but have you considered growing Maglia Rosa in a container? I grew it last year in a 3.8 gal. black nursery container and it grew like crazy! It was big and bushy and I used a 4-ring HD tomato cage to hold it. Got tons of tomatoes, and in that container it was fully portable, too.

If blush is a similar plant, you could grow that one in a container as well.
Just a thought.

September 30, 2016	#241
POAJoan Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Reno Posts: 89	No, it was extremely windy and we had several patches of 90°to 100° temperatures during the day and down to 40s°at night. I was unable to get these into the ground until June 20, so I am very pleased that the result is as nice as it is. And it is not a huge plant which makes it all a very desirable plant for here.

September 30, 2016	#242
Fred Hempel Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sunol, CA Posts: 2,723	Excellent. The high desert is such a challenging place to grow!

October 4, 2016	#243
Fred Hempel Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sunol, CA Posts: 2,723	Orange Jazz seeds can be had now, along with Green Bee seeds for $6 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...?ref=user_menu

October 4, 2016	#244
jtjmartin Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2016 Location: Williamsburg VA Zone 7b Posts: 1,110	BVV: I was looking at your OJ pictures - what kind of spacing do you use between tomatoes? Do you use black plastic (it almost looks reflective in some pics)?

October 5, 2016	#245
Fred Hempel Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sunol, CA Posts: 2,723	The Orange Jazz shown on the Artisan Seeds Facebook page were growing in Mexico, at the farm of a close collaborator. They use black plastic, and I think their spacing is about 3 feet apart.

December 7, 2016	#246
jmsieglaff Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Southern WI Posts: 2,742	Hi Fred, I'm excited to try Orange Jazz next year. I'm curious if you've grown KBX and comment on how the two compare in terms of flavor and production? Loved KBX this year.

December 7, 2016	#247
AKmark Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Wasilla Alaska Posts: 2,010	Purple Bumblebee grew well for me outside in AK, I want to try Orange Jazz in the GH.

December 8, 2016	#251
Barb_FL Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Indialantic, Florida Posts: 2,000	I've grown them both as well along with Kelloggs Breakfast, always in a Root Pouch or Earthbox. KBX/KB is a larger plant than OJ. KBX and KB production, taste, size were identical to me. I've grown the regular leaf KB much more. I never considered KBX/KB sweet - it is my favorite tomato. I find OJ very sweet and fruity tasting. On the sweetness, OJ wasn't as sweet as Lucid Gem or Orange Russian 117. BTW - I'm having the best season ever with KB. Plants have over 20 tomatoes already and still setting fruit, none have ripen yet. I've never had that many in a season. (Note: it is the best tomato season is Florida for everyone here, my best FALL season ever)

December 8, 2016	#252
BigVanVader Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Greenville, South Carolina Posts: 3,099	I think I got at least 20 tomatoes off every OJ plant, probably more. I haven't grown KB/KBX yet. I need to but I kinda missed SOO this year so I am going to grow it again in a better spot, but who knows maybe I can squeeze one KB in.

January 26, 2017	#254
LindyAdele Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 323	I wonder if anyone has grown Jazz or OJ in Ontario climates? Some of the main tomatoes Mr. Hempel works with do fabulously in my garden (striped roman, amana orange, black krim, black cherry) and the outstanding tomato for me last year was Maglia Rosa. I always grow blush and at least one of the bumblebees now. So can I make the leap that the Jazz lines might do well for me too? I have to be careful because I have 100 squarefeet of space, in the middle of a big city and not a farm. I am limited to 16 plants.