YOUR Tentativ Grow out ... for 2016 season

[Cole_Robbie]

Originally Posted by Gerardo

Joining you for a fair amount of those C_R, yeah!

I just dumped the last of my Lucid Gem, Summer Sunrise, and Kelly Green on you. That gives me a slight sense of relief. Now you can try them for me and just let me know how they are.

[Gerardo]

Originally Posted by Cole_Robbie

I just dumped the last of my Lucid Gem, Summer Sunrise, and Kelly Green on you. That gives me a slight sense of relief. Now you can try them for me and just let me know how they are.

Looking forward to all three of those and your reviews of the eastern varieties.

Really diggin' the dwarfs, and LG's "unusual heat tolerance" will come in handy.

I have a feeling this summer will go hot, so hot that Arnold or Danny Glover will have to reprise their roles and save us.

Gonna have to post a revised list, weather has forced my hand.

Rebelski and BHN-871 should be setting some fruit this weekend.

[MI Dawn]

I'm in MI but my vote would be for Neves Azorean, Eva Purple Ball, and Paul Robeson. Great flavors, good looks and for me good production. I know that Margaret Curtain is highly recommended but I haven't tried that one yet or Painted Pink. Azoychka is good but not knock your socks off.

[Father'sDaughter]

Originally Posted by Father'sDaughter

So now that I've had a chance to go through my MMMM packet, my list is finally complete!

Cherry:

*Franchi Cherry

Eating (I went half beefsteaks and half hearts; a red, pink and orange of each):

*Seek No Further Love Apple
Doubloon
Shuntutski Velican
Donskoi
*Cuor Di Bue
Orange Russian 117

For canning:

*Buddy Runyon
*Casino
Egyptian
*Grandma Mary's
*Nudi Family Heirloom
Petrovich
Provenzano
*Rocky
*Russian 117
*Santa Maria
Sulia's Heart
VB Russia (if the 2006 seeds germinate)
*Venetian Marketplace

Grow Bags:

*Early Wonder Pink
*Moravsky Div
*Dwarf Pink Passion
Speckly (dwarf project)
Worry (dwarf project)
*Heidi
*San Marzano Nano

* = returning

I did it. I broke my rule of not posting my grow list until I was 100% sure it wouldn't change.

Scratched from the above are:
Doubloon
Heidi
VB Russia
Venetian Marketplace

I've also reduced a few pastes to one per variety, and my new list includes:

Azoychka
Oroma
Rinaldo*
San Marzano Redorta**
Sarnowski Polish Plum
Sausage


*repeaters

**one final try for an in ground, full size San Marzano variety. I've tried several in the past and they've done horribly. This year I'll be growing SM Redorta from seeds my husband received from one of his customers in a nearby town. He obtained the SM Redorta and Cuor Di Bue seeds in Italy years ago and they are now the only two varieties he grows. I had great results with his Cuor Di Bue, so I caved and agreed to try his SM Redorta seeds this year to see if I could break the SM curse.

Heidi was sacrificed to free up grow bag space for the dwarfs. Since I'm growing F2's, I want to squeeze in a few more plant of each to help with the selection process.

[Fiishergurl]

Originally Posted by MI Dawn

I'm in MI but my vote would be for Neves Azorean, Eva Purple Ball, and Paul Robeson. Great flavors, good looks and for me good production. I know that Margaret Curtain is highly recommended but I haven't tried that one yet or Painted Pink. Azoychka is good but not knock your socks off.

Thank you! That's actually the way i was leaning. Wasnt sure about Eva but will try to squeeze it in.

Ginny

[Gardeneer]

I published this list in the opening post :

1-AZOYCHKA
2-BETTER BOY (F1)
3-BIG BEEF (F1)
4- BLACK FROM TULA
5- BLACK SEAMAN (Pot)
6- GREEN COPIA
7- BROWN HEART
8- HAHMS GELBE T. (ornamental, in pot)
9-INDIAN STRIPE
7- INDIGO APPLE (ornamental, in pot)
10- KUMATO (F3) (pot)
11- NEW BIG DWARF (Pot)
12-OLD GERMAN
13- PURPLE HEART, dwrf (pot)
14-REISENTRAUBE
15- SAKHARNYI ZHELTYI
16- SILETZ (Pot)
17- WILLAMETTE

Now looking back i am in violation. Instead 17 varieties now I have 26.
Here are the additions"

18- ANANAS NOIRE
19 - BIG BOY (F1)
20 - CHEROKEE PURPLE
21 - COSTOLUTO (?)
22 - DANIEL BURSON
23 - INDIGO ROSE ( in pot)
24 - LEGEND
25 - OREGON SPRING
26 - SILVERY FIR TREE ( in pot)

I have 26 spots in ground, plus pots. so I can plant two of some varieties, like my favorites: Big Beef, Brown Heart, Azoychka, Black from Tula , Willamette,

I will start making a reality by starting to sow in 3 days.

[efisakov]

Originally Posted by Gardeneer

I published this list in the opening post :

1-AZOYCHKA
2-BETTER BOY (F1)
3-BIG BEEF (F1)
4- BLACK FROM TULA
5- BLACK SEAMAN (Pot)
6- GREEN COPIA
7- BROWN HEART
8- HAHMS GELBE T. (ornamental, in pot)
9-INDIAN STRIPE
7- INDIGO APPLE (ornamental, in pot)
10- KUMATO (F3) (pot)
11- NEW BIG DWARF (Pot)
12-OLD GERMAN
13- PURPLE HEART, dwrf (pot)
14-REISENTRAUBE
15- SAKHARNYI ZHELTYI
16- SILETZ (Pot)
17- WILLAMETTE

Now looking back i am in violation. Instead 17 varieties now I have 26.
Here are the additions"

18- ANANAS NOIRE
19 - BIG BOY (F1)
20 - CHEROKEE PURPLE
21 - COSTOLUTO (?)
22 - DANIEL BURSON
23 - INDIGO ROSE ( in pot)
24 - LEGEND
25 - OREGON SPRING
26 - SILVERY FIR TREE ( in pot)

I have 26 spots in ground, plus pots. so I can plant two of some varieties, like my favorites: Big Beef, Brown Heart, Azoychka, Black from Tula , Willamette,

I will start making a reality by starting to sow in 3 days.

ANANAS NOIRE was not on my list at first. As I was going through my seeds I just could not put it away. Had to take something else out and add this one. It was super productive for me in 2012. The tomato soup perfect tomato. It is great on sandwich (the biggest were 2 lb, 1 lb 8 oz, 1 lb 4 oz, 1 lb 3 oz, , 1 lb 2 oz, two 13 oz), has excellent presentation. The only problem with it is that it does not have good shelf life.

[xtgold]

1. mutant speckled roma from seeds saved in 2014,tomato was round instead of plum shaped.
2.garden peach
3.indigo rose
4.better boy from saved seeds
5. Omar's Lebanese
6. clones of a compost pile heirloom tomato that was big and drought resistant.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by xtgold

1. mutant speckled roma from seeds saved in 2014,tomato was round instead of plum shaped.
2.garden peach
3.indigo rose
4.better boy from saved seeds
5. Omar's Lebanese
6. clones of a compost pile heirloom tomato that was big and drought resistant.

With the BEtter Boy saved seeds you might want to decide if you are looking for pinks,which are one parent,or reds which are the other parent.

I went through this with Big Boy F1 looking for the pink heirloom parent,which is TeddyJones and also a parent for Bette Boy, and had to set out many plants,I think it was 12 at first,to find but two pinks, and they sure didn't taste good at all to me.

The reds weren't much better,so good luck.

There used to be an OP Better Boy and an OP Big Boy listed in the SSE YEarbooks,but I just looked and neither one is there now,

Hope that helps,since I've been through this before with Big Boy F1.

I'm glad to see you are growing Omar's LEbanese,which is a variety I love and first introduced and I thought the history behind it might interest you in case you don't already know it.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...r%27s_Lebanese

The listings for it in the annual SSE YEarbooks are very positive,

Carolyn

[MI Dawn]

I don't blame you for adding Ananas Noire. It is one of my every year tomatoes. Love the stunning slices and the flavor. I don't have to worry about not keeping well as it disappears real fast! Black from Tula is also on my grow every year list.

[Gardeneer]

Originally Posted by MI Dawn

I don't blame you for adding Ananas Noire. It is one of my every year tomatoes. Love the stunning slices and the flavor. I don't have to worry about not keeping well as it disappears real fast! Black from Tula is also on my grow every year list.

It is stunning, indeed to me too.
Although the name translate to "Black Pineapple" but it is more than that. It is also considered a GWR.
Look at my avatar . That is my own picture from 2014.
It also tastes very good, described as complex.
Another thing, being related to Belgian Giant, it bears large fruits. My largest one was almost 20 oz.
Yeah , my other favorite is Black from Tulla. The texture and taste compare to C.P. but it was more productive.

Gardeneer

[ilex]

First batch:

amaraillo de ines
amarillo de ladruñan
angel
avoa de osedo
benjamin
casas altas
castielfiabib
cortes
cuerno de boi
del kilo rojo
ensalada de puertomingalbo
gallego
navarro
rosa de albesa
rosa de almazora (cs?)
rosa de altea
rosa gigante – gallego
rosado de castellon
rosado de navarra
rosado del tio ignacio
secar
tres cantos gigante rosa
valenciano de ludiente

De colgar:

C 100 en pom de del penedes
C 100 en pom de la ribera
c alt millars
c artana floral
c artana2
c blanco de ibiza
c can pino
c capicorb
c castiel
c cerruo
c cs-2
c cs-3 – conejero
c del aestrella LL-169
c elmasroig
c encontrado
c ginestar
c hoja de patatera
c largo del villar
c LL-56
c marjal de nules
c marjal de nules (aguantadora)
c morada
c ses coves
c son gil
c son sardina
c soneja
c torreblanca
c villanueva de viver
c villareal
c zia maria

[carolyn137]

Good heavens Ilex,that's some kind of list.

I do recognize some,but not many

Just a couple of questions.

I do recognize Gallego, but why do you call it rosa Gigante?

And I think I know more about Tres Cantos Gigante Rosa but will have to look that up,no I don't have seeds for it but someone else did. It had something to do with it being from the Azores and was thought to have reached the Azores via the Portuguese who still own the Azores.

And yes, related to the variety Neves Azorean Red which Anthony Neves brought to the US from the Azores. Not related variety wise, but just in origin.

And this new one I have, Cheryl's Portuguese Red Heart I'll have to take a look at the picture again myself. I wanted it for several years and finally got the seeds.

Do you know of any large heart multifloras?

Villareal?That one caught my eye for a totally different reaason.

Luis Villareal was a member of the Microbiology Dept at the Med School in Colorado when I was also there and I remember him well.He and Meredith hit it off,as it were,and Meredith was the person who helped me learn how to do some DNA techniques.

But for sure there are lots of Villareals,my question being is it also a geographical place in Spain or city,or town?

http://www.faculty.uci.edu/profile.cfm?faculty_id=2705

Carolyn

[ilex]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

Good heavens Ilex,that's some kind of list.

I do recognize some,but not many

Just a couple of questions.

I do recognize Gallego, but why do you call it rosa Gigante?

And I think I know more about Tres Cantos Gigante Rosa but will have to look that up,no I don't have seeds for it but someone else did. It had something to do with it being from the Azores and was thought to have reached the Azores via the Portuguese who still own the Azores.

And yes, related to the variety Neves Azorean Red which Anthony Neves brought to the US from the Azores. Not related variety wise, but just in origin.

And this new one I have, Cheryl's Portuguese Red Heart I'll have to take a look at the picture again myself. I wanted it for several years and finally got the seeds.

Do you know of any large heart multifloras?

Villareal?That one caught my eye for a totally different reaason.

Luis Villareal was a member of the Microbiology Dept at the Med School in Colorado when I was also there and I remember him well.He and Meredith hit it off,as it were,and Meredith was the person who helped me learn how to do some DNA techniques.

But for sure there are lots of Villareals,my question being is it also a geographical place in Spain or city,or town?

http://www.faculty.uci.edu/profile.cfm?faculty_id=2705

Carolyn

It's probably another tomato, not the usual gallego (which just means from Galicia). I've got other called "gigante rosa" (giant pink), so I added "gallego" as I know were it came from.

Tres Cantos is a town in Madrid, but "Tres Cantos" tomato has traveled quite a bit, and as it got a recognized name, a few things go around under its name.

No, no heart multifloras. Most of the multifloras I know are "de colgar" type, and I only know one heart "de colgar", which I haven't seen in person. It's really a very good trait for those tomatoes as you pick and store whole bunches.

Villareal is a town in Castellon.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by ilex

It's probably another tomato, not the usual gallego (which just means from Galicia). I've got other called "gigante rosa" (giant pink), so I added "gallego" as I know were it came from.

Tres Cantos is a town in Madrid, but "Tres Cantos" tomato has traveled quite a bit, and as it got a recognized name, a few things go around under its name.

No, no heart multifloras. Most of the multifloras I know are "de colgar" type, and I only know one heart "de colgar", which I haven't seen in person. It's really a very good trait for those tomatoes as you pick and store whole bunches.

Villareal is a town in Castellon.

Thanks for answering my questions.

And when and if you find that heart de Colgar don't be shy about it,just get on a plane at my expense and fly over here, or give seeds to a relative who might be coming this way.

Whichever option you choose please don't forget to have some one bring some soft Turrone along with the seeds.

And if not possible with the turrone Gerardo is my backup on that at least he said he could try in Mexico.

Carolyn