Japanese Black Trifele X Orange Banana

[Frog]

Originally Posted by TZ-OH6

I think that last year, about the time the OB x JPT thread started, that I asked Keith Mueller (Mulio over at GW) something about this (possibly after reading the paper you linked) and he said that almost all of the commercially available orange tomatoes were really "gold" and thus one of the yellow flesh (r) alleles. I did a search over there and couldn't find the thread, so it may be some place else. Anyway, it stuck in my mind that I could pretty much forget about Tangerine and Beta genes unless the tomato was one of the newer "Healthy" tomatoes.

I was looking at the flowers of Orange Banana a few days ago, I had failed to notice in the past but the flowers have pale yellow petals with an orange anther cone, I believe this suggests that orange Banana has the tangerine (t) gene and is probably RRtt, so I am expecting a red F1. Though rrtt would also be orange, we'd still see the red F1 but a lot more segregation in the f2.

I have fruit set on the F1s, they are producing a nice tidy plum shaped fruit without the nipple of Orange Banana.

The F1s wispy growth habit, plant shape, leaf shape and sepal form is indistinguishable from OB, but the flowers are larger, less delicate and the normal yellow colour.

[Frog]

Latest picture of one of my F1s. Heavy fruiting plum shaped tomatoes. A few fruits are just starting to blush, 65 days from transplant. They look like they might be orange, I'll know in a few days.

[sprtsguy76]

Very interesting, lets us know how they taste. I'm just guessing by appearance but I think you might have a red there, but again just a guess. Good luck!

Damon

[shlacm]

Well it certainly looks productive!!! Is your daughter excited?

[Frog]

She's lost interest to be honest. Though she's loooking forward to eating them. She understood the F1s would all be the same, but what she really wants to see is the segregation.