General information and discussion about cultivating onions, garlic, shallots and leeks.
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Some folks feel that bulbils forming lower on the stem is a stress response.
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Just curious -- how do you know it's "definitely hardneck" if it hasn't produced scapes in the two years you've grown it? By definition, a hardneck produces a scape. Did the person you got it from tell you what variety is was supposed to be? |
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My other thought is, maybe last year (the first year you grew this garlic?) there was stress such that it did not produce scapes. Now as far as this year, I believe it is too early for scapes--at least here in Wisconsin (~43N latitude) I usually don't get scapes until mid June. |
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I have seen the garden, it had scapes at that time (also some of them had these bulbils suspended in the neck as svalli said), also the hardneck leaves a hard woody thing in the middle of the cloves.
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The hard woody thing is the actually the base of the scape stalk. Keep us posted on what the end up doing this year! |
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Did you plant in spring or fall? I think spring planting can cause them to not produce scapes?
But honestly, if you have some bulbil things down in the stem, I think it is a softneck. Those bulbils look so cool!!! Like growing your own garden gnomes. ![]() ![]() |
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I think we have came to the conclusion it is artichoke garlic.
Yes dont ask me why but that is what soft neck is called. Worth |
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zipcode, Does your aunt grow the ones with real scapes and the ones with the bulbils in the neck in same bed mixed with each other? She must have at least two different garlic varieties, if some have scapes and others have bulbils lower at the stem. If she has not separated the varieties at harvest time, you may have gotten a softneck bulb with hard stem in the middle due to the bulbils close to the neck.
I'm growing multiple garlic varieties and keeping the varieties separate at harvest and curing time is a lot of work. Sari
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