What is making a return to your garden in 2016? - Page 6

RJGlew · September 8, 2015

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canehdian

For me it has to be a valiant grower in the short season...

Are you all outside, or are you in a hoop/greenhouse?

I am 100% outside, up against a south wall. My current 2016 thinking is:

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Big Beef F1
Black Opal
Bloody Butcher
Burpee's Burger F1
Burpee's Summer Choice F1 - new for 2016.
Early Doll F1
Early Girl F1
Early Pick VF F1
Early Treat F1
Fourth of July F1
Garden Gem F1 - new for 2016
Golden Gem F1 - new for 2026
Jet Star F1
Kalinka
Lemon Boy F1
Lyana
Moreton F1
Moskvich
Novcerkasskij 416
Rozovye Gryozy (aka Pink Dreams)
Sakharnyi Zheltyi (aka Sugary Yellow)
Sophie's Choice
Steak Sandwich F1
Stupice
Sun Gold F1
Sweet Baby Girl F1
Yablonka Rossii

Canehdian · September 8, 2015

RJGlew..I am outside against a south wall as well. I will probably also try some other black/purple that are supposed to be early, need some more go-to ones. I have had luck before with Black Pear, Black Opal and Black Plum.

RJGlew · September 8, 2015

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canehdian

RJGlew..I am outside against a south wall as well. I will probably also try some other black/purple that are supposed to be early, need some more go-to ones. I have had luck before with Black Pear, Black Opal and Black Plum.

If you want to try any of the stuff I have then just ask. I'll PM you my list.

sjamesNorway · September 8, 2015

I've made a quick check of "votes" (definitely returning) so far, and include only those with more than 2 "votes":

Big Beef 12
Cherokee Purple 8
Indian Stripe 7
Black Cherry 7
Stump of the World 5
Black Krim 5
Pink Berkeley Tie-Die 5
Carbon Copy 5
Prudens Purple 4
Azoychka 4
Brandywine Cowlick's 4
Red Barn 4
Lemon Boy 4
Grightmire's Pride 3
Malakhitovaya Shkatulka 3
George Detsikas Italian Red 3
Neves Azorian Red 3
Black from Tula 3
Kardia Karpos 3
Jaune Flamme 3
Matina 3
Sun Sugar 3
Snow White 3
San Marzano 3

Like I said, a quick run through. I may have missed a vote somewhere.

Steve

Fiishergurl · September 8, 2015

Great SJamesNorway. Thank you for compiling the list.

For those of you growing Big Beef. .. 2 questions.

1. Are you container or Ground Growing?
2. Is taste the main reason you are growing Big Beef or some other reason such as disease resistance or productivity?

I grow in containers and my main criteria is taste (I dont have a problem with productivity and dont have the soil diseases) so I'm curious what the main reason you all love Big Beef is. If it's taste i will try it this fall.

Ginny

Sydney Grower · September 8, 2015

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tormato

"Kardia Karpos"

Gary,

My knowing that it is not yet a "variety", what did it produce for you? Hearts? Beefsteaks? Both? PL? RL? Pink? Other color?

My one Kardia Karpos plant this year produced PL pink beefsteaks. They were the sweetest tasting large tomatoes in my garden this year.

Gary

If my Greek is correct, they should be “heart fruit”

Great name. Who is the Koine Greek scholar who named it?

Carl

oakley · September 8, 2015

I've been growing from seed around 75 varieties the past dozen years in a difficult climate...the Catskills at altitude zone 5a. Full sun and wind helps. I just put a note in my seed box for next year to simplify my main tomato bed. It holds about 30-35 plants.

If i can follow my orders it will have...

Cherokee Purple/and chocolate
Sun Gold
Cuban Yellow

They work well together. Cubans for garden snacking. Sun Gold for early salads.
Cherokee has just been outstanding for the perfect BLT and all around fresh eating.
Surprised to see it does so well for so many different climates. As well as Sun Gold.
(we like the Cubans before fully ripe...nice and tart and lovely transparent)
Most of my seeds are from saves and TomGrowersSupply. I've grown all their hearts/oxhearts for years now. I still will give them a spot, but in my other beds as well as some new trials. Nothing has performed as well as those three.

KC.Sun · September 14, 2015

Will be growing these again for sure:

Coyote
Brazilian starfish
Lemon drop
Red savina
Carolina reaper
Petite Marseillaise
Konasu

Undecided:
Brown Berry
Goose creek

Additional items (too many to list-about 100 varieties):
Spanish tomatoes/peppers
French tomatoes
Russian tomatoes
Ukraine tomatoes
Pappy Kerns
Tomatoes from the dwarf project
Wild boar farm tomatoes

Unless I find some more amazing heart tomatoes, my grow list for next year is more or less finalized.

Ed of Somis · September 14, 2015

Ginny, I planted Big Beef this year for the first time...one in-ground and one container. Both plants lived up to the hype. Mine were the most productive of all the 17 plants (14 varieties). They lasted the longest of all plants (now are done). The taste was not comparable to my best heirlooms...but were "very good". I recommend them.

Ricky Shaw · September 14, 2015

^ My feelings exactly on Big Beef. And taste being a relative thing, they're a great give away tomato. People I know, almost exclusively get supermarket tomatoes and rarely would go to a farmers market. They light up with praise telling me about the taste. Yes, I love Big Beef.

Ginny, I've grown them the last 4 years in raised beds. Two of those years were terrible conditions, cold wet Springs and blazing Summer heat. The Big Beef outproduced my other tomatoes every year and in the good years they were absolute mules.

Fiishergurl · September 14, 2015

Ed and Ricky,

Thanks for the input. I have several neighbors that fall into the category of ones that i think will really like Big Beef. They couldn't care less about the "strange looking" tomatoes... lol. After I saw how many people grow it, I started some seeds for the fall crop. Thanks again for the feed back!

Ginny

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Catherine+twin · September 14, 2015

Tried some dwarves this year, some from the Dwarf Project, some Russian commercial varieties. And then tried a couple just for earliness. My mountain garden has a short, cool, dry season which is very limiting.

Old favorites that will return:

Amber Colored (determinate)
Glacier (PL determinate)
Maritime Pink (indeterminate)

New tomatoes that will return:

Klusha (Russian determinate dwarf, prolific)
Perth Pride (indeterminate dwarf, second chance to shine)
Rosso Sicilian (indeterminate, sauce)
Siletz (determinate, prolific)
Sleeping Lady (indeterminate dwarf, tasty)
Talaliknin 186 (Russian compact determinate)
Volgogradskiy 323 (Russian compact determinate dwarf, rugose foliage, nice size)
Yukon Quest (indeterminate dwarf, second chance to shine)

Gardeneer · September 15, 2015

Azoychka (OP) +++
Ananas Noire (OP)
Big Beef (F1) +++
Better Boy (F1)
Black from Tula (OP) ++
Brown Heart (OP) +++
Custoluto (lk ak) +
Green Copia (OP)
Kumato (F3) >>>>> in POT
Large Red Cherry (OP) +
Purple Heart Dwrf OP) >>>>> in POT
Pink Passion ( Dwrf OP) >>>>> in POT
Indigo Rose (OP)......>>>>> in POT
Rosella pink ( Dwrf OP) >>>>> in POT
New Big Dwarf (Dwrf OP) >>>>> in POT
Willamette ( Det. OP) +++
---------------
So far 10 in beds and 6 will go in pots. But I think I will have a couple more to be added..
It is going to be a lean mean operation compared to 2015, from which I have ZAPED about 18.

The ones I have zapped :
CP, Mini Roma, JBT, KB, Big Rainbow, Bear Claw, Siletz, Black Cherry, Rutgers, Arbuznyi, Legend, 4th of July, Brandy Boy, small red cherry, Golden cherry, Druzba, Rio Grande . WOW ! I cannot believe I zapped so many.

Lindalana · September 15, 2015

For those liking Grighmire Pride, I suggest checking out Mayo Delight- grown side by side MD outdid GP in taste and production. Both are keepers though.

seaeagle · September 15, 2015

Cherokee Purple

Bulgarian Red Giant

Cuostralee

Eva Purple Ball

Jet Star

Rutgers

September 8, 2015	#79
sjamesNorway Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Norway Posts: 1,049	Compilation I've made a quick check of "votes" (definitely returning) so far, and include only those with more than 2 "votes": Big Beef 12 Cherokee Purple 8 Indian Stripe 7 Black Cherry 7 Stump of the World 5 Black Krim 5 Pink Berkeley Tie-Die 5 Carbon Copy 5 Prudens Purple 4 Azoychka 4 Brandywine Cowlick's 4 Red Barn 4 Lemon Boy 4 Grightmire's Pride 3 Malakhitovaya Shkatulka 3 George Detsikas Italian Red 3 Neves Azorian Red 3 Black from Tula 3 Kardia Karpos 3 Jaune Flamme 3 Matina 3 Sun Sugar 3 Snow White 3 San Marzano 3 Like I said, a quick run through. I may have missed a vote somewhere. Steve Last edited by sjamesNorway; September 8, 2015 at 04:10 AM.

September 14, 2015	#85
Ricky Shaw Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Zone 6a Denver North Metro Posts: 1,910	^ My feelings exactly on Big Beef. And taste being a relative thing, they're a great give away tomato. People I know, almost exclusively get supermarket tomatoes and rarely would go to a farmers market. They light up with praise telling me about the taste. Yes, I love Big Beef. Ginny, I've grown them the last 4 years in raised beds. Two of those years were terrible conditions, cold wet Springs and blazing Summer heat. The Big Beef outproduced my other tomatoes every year and in the good years they were absolute mules. Last edited by Ricky Shaw; September 14, 2015 at 09:57 PM.

September 8, 2015	#77
Canehdian Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Calgary, Alberta Canada Posts: 94	RJGlew..I am outside against a south wall as well. I will probably also try some other black/purple that are supposed to be early, need some more go-to ones. I have had luck before with Black Pear, Black Opal and Black Plum.

September 8, 2015	#80
Fiishergurl Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Oak Hill, Florida Posts: 1,781	Great SJamesNorway. Thank you for compiling the list. For those of you growing Big Beef. .. 2 questions. 1. Are you container or Ground Growing? 2. Is taste the main reason you are growing Big Beef or some other reason such as disease resistance or productivity? I grow in containers and my main criteria is taste (I dont have a problem with productivity and dont have the soil diseases) so I'm curious what the main reason you all love Big Beef is. If it's taste i will try it this fall. Ginny

September 8, 2015	#82
oakley Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: NewYork 5a Posts: 2,303	I've been growing from seed around 75 varieties the past dozen years in a difficult climate...the Catskills at altitude zone 5a. Full sun and wind helps. I just put a note in my seed box for next year to simplify my main tomato bed. It holds about 30-35 plants. If i can follow my orders it will have... Cherokee Purple/and chocolate Sun Gold Cuban Yellow They work well together. Cubans for garden snacking. Sun Gold for early salads. Cherokee has just been outstanding for the perfect BLT and all around fresh eating. Surprised to see it does so well for so many different climates. As well as Sun Gold. (we like the Cubans before fully ripe...nice and tart and lovely transparent) Most of my seeds are from saves and TomGrowersSupply. I've grown all their hearts/oxhearts for years now. I still will give them a spot, but in my other beds as well as some new trials. Nothing has performed as well as those three.

September 14, 2015	#83
KC.Sun Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: 6a Posts: 322	Will be growing these again for sure: Coyote Brazilian starfish Lemon drop Red savina Carolina reaper Petite Marseillaise Konasu Undecided: Brown Berry Goose creek Additional items (too many to list-about 100 varieties): Spanish tomatoes/peppers French tomatoes Russian tomatoes Ukraine tomatoes Pappy Kerns Tomatoes from the dwarf project Wild boar farm tomatoes Unless I find some more amazing heart tomatoes, my grow list for next year is more or less finalized.

September 14, 2015	#84
Ed of Somis Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Somis, Ca Posts: 649	Ginny, I planted Big Beef this year for the first time...one in-ground and one container. Both plants lived up to the hype. Mine were the most productive of all the 17 plants (14 varieties). They lasted the longest of all plants (now are done). The taste was not comparable to my best heirlooms...but were "very good". I recommend them.

September 14, 2015	#87
Catherine+twin Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Northern New Mexico Posts: 34	Tried some dwarves this year, some from the Dwarf Project, some Russian commercial varieties. And then tried a couple just for earliness. My mountain garden has a short, cool, dry season which is very limiting. Old favorites that will return: Amber Colored (determinate) Glacier (PL determinate) Maritime Pink (indeterminate) New tomatoes that will return: Klusha (Russian determinate dwarf, prolific) Perth Pride (indeterminate dwarf, second chance to shine) Rosso Sicilian (indeterminate, sauce) Siletz (determinate, prolific) Sleeping Lady (indeterminate dwarf, tasty) Talaliknin 186 (Russian compact determinate) Volgogradskiy 323 (Russian compact determinate dwarf, rugose foliage, nice size) Yukon Quest (indeterminate dwarf, second chance to shine)

September 15, 2015	#88
Gardeneer Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: NC - zone 8a - heat zone 7 Posts: 4,915	Azoychka (OP) +++ Ananas Noire (OP) Big Beef (F1) +++ Better Boy (F1) Black from Tula (OP) ++ Brown Heart (OP) +++ Custoluto (lk ak) + Green Copia (OP) Kumato (F3) >>>>> in POT Large Red Cherry (OP) + Purple Heart Dwrf OP) >>>>> in POT Pink Passion ( Dwrf OP) >>>>> in POT Indigo Rose (OP)......>>>>> in POT Rosella pink ( Dwrf OP) >>>>> in POT New Big Dwarf (Dwrf OP) >>>>> in POT Willamette ( Det. OP) +++ --------------- So far 10 in beds and 6 will go in pots. But I think I will have a couple more to be added.. It is going to be a lean mean operation compared to 2015, from which I have ZAPED about 18. The ones I have zapped : CP, Mini Roma, JBT, KB, Big Rainbow, Bear Claw, Siletz, Black Cherry, Rutgers, Arbuznyi, Legend, 4th of July, Brandy Boy, small red cherry, Golden cherry, Druzba, Rio Grande . WOW ! I cannot believe I zapped so many.

September 15, 2015	#89
Lindalana Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 857	For those liking Grighmire Pride, I suggest checking out Mayo Delight- grown side by side MD outdid GP in taste and production. Both are keepers though.

September 15, 2015	#90
seaeagle Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: virginia Posts: 733	Cherokee Purple Bulgarian Red Giant Cuostralee Eva Purple Ball Jet Star Rutgers