Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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December 22, 2016 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
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2016 MMMM questions
This will be the thread for asking questions about varieties you receive (after you've done a thorough search at Tatiana's, of course).
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January 1, 2017 | #2 |
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Searches have turned up next to nothing on a few varieties, so I'll kick this off!
Can anyone give me more information on these? Interested in fruit size, shape, maturity (early/mid/late season), color, leaf type, and anything else you can tell me about them. I believe they are all pastes, but please correct me if that's not the case. Thanks in advance! Scalone Big Ray's Argentina Spagnoletta Pitanga |
January 1, 2017 | #3 |
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From http://exchange.seedsavers.org
Big Ray's Argentina 85 days, Elongated paste variety. Regular leaf plant with very good taste and good production of 7" red fruit. Great for sauce and salsa. This is a relatively obscure variety - at least I haven't found it listed anywhere - and it would be great to get a few others growing it. Spagnoletta Potato leaf, small, flattened, segmented fruit with unique Mediterranean flavor. Adapts to saliferous soils. Small plant, used to prepare dried tomatoes or good in salads if picked half-ripe Grown in the Gaeta Gulf and Formia areas of Italy. I received seeds from my barber who came from this area in Italy where it is well known and appreciated for the gem that it is
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January 1, 2017 | #4 |
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Spagnoletta is also known as Casalino. A flattened, ribbed Costoluto type, similar to Costoluto Genovese. I grew it last year and sent in seeds. It's a great saucer, just like the other Costolutos.
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January 1, 2017 | #5 |
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I found this pix in a search on "Pitanga Images".
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January 3, 2017 | #6 |
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This is a beautiful tomato!!!
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January 1, 2017 | #7 |
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That's about all I initially found and when I saw it I immediately thought of a tomato Brokenbar (Mary) had shared seeds for a couple of years ago. She said she had saved the seeds from a tomato she had purchased in a marketplace in Venice and not knowing what it was, called it Venetian Marketplace. But then I found a video reportedly showing Pitanga as a piriform shaped tomato, and other images that looked like a costoluto variety. |
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Thank you both! Big Ray's Argentina would be interesting to grow along side some of the other elongated varieties I will grow. And knowing that Spagnoletta is from the Gaeta, I'll definitely have to give it a go. That's where my daughter-in-law's Italian side of the family came from, but the old family tomato varieties apparently stopped being grown a generation or two ago. |
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January 2, 2017 | #10 |
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Tormato, are these F1 or F2...etc.
Green Envy F? Sweet Mojo F? I didn't find info for Ice Cherry. Could it be Italian Ice? If it is Italian Ice - it's a F? too. Last edited by AlittleSalt; January 4, 2017 at 02:44 PM. |
January 5, 2017 | #11 |
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I didn't find info for Ice Cherry. Could it be Italian Ice? If it is Italian Ice - it's a F? too.[/QUOTE] I got it last year in the swap. It is a rust colored cherry on a small plant, good flavor. |
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I'm actually relieved that it is not a white tomato because white ones don't taste as good when it gets so hot here in Texas. |
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January 3, 2017 | #13 |
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I have a few I couldn't find info on either.
Dagestanskyi Bleeding Heart (All my searches for this one just showed the ornamental flowering plant) Deep Space Heroda's Ludmilla ( found some description but one said a red plum, another a pink heart and a third site said a giant yellow. So confused) Mom's Heart Pitanga ( Thanks for the info from above, will add it to my card) Rose de L'omio Any help would be appreciated! : ) |
January 4, 2017 | #14 | |
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Original seed was sourced from Wintersown in 2013, what I sent into MMMM was from this summer. IND, 75 DTM as stated on original label. Mine were later than that but I did get it into the ground rather late. I still got 7.5 lbs from my one plant, which I thought was pretty good! It has the droopy, wispy appearance of most hearts. Not stingy on seeds either. I don't know anything on the history or where the name originated. Here are my growing notes: Rose de L'Omio: Productive heart, the critters seemed to like this one a lot. Ripens to a vibrant pink and has good flavor and creamy texture. |
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Great, now the only one I still need info on is Ludmilla. Salt... I found this for Green Envy F1 http://www.thompson-morgan.com/veget...envy/tt38813TM and Burpee has the Green Envy too. Mojo F1 ... http://www.holmesseed.com/sweet-mojo-f1-tomato/ Ice cherry ... Looks like you might be right that it is Italian Ice cherry. Looks to be a good cherry to try. The only other thing I could find was White Ice cherry which looks like it the same as the Italian Ice only they calling it white as when they turn white they edible. https://www.amazon.com/HEIRLOOM-Whit.../dp/B00KZAZ0NW |
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