Genetics genetics genetics

tessa · October 21, 2017

Hi friends...long time!

I'm back to ask a genetics question.
I learned so much in the dwarf project but I'm having difficulty wrapping my brain around this question....
It's to do with clementine mandarines.
They are supposedly a seedless variety, but once in a while, there is a seed or two in them.
My question is: how?
And my next question is:
If planted, will they come true?

You know, just a simple question for your Saturday afternoon.
😁

MissS · October 21, 2017

How? Because nature wants to reproduce and will surprise you with it's creativeness every once in awhile.

No you will not get a seedless fruit from the seeds. The fruit will be a normal fruit and hold many seeds. You will only get a seedless fruit if you graft the plant onto a root stock. I have a Locust tree started from a seed of a seedless Locust tree. It is a normal Locust tree and makes a huge mess every year. It needs to be cut down.

Worth1 · October 21, 2017

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Originally Posted by MissS

How? Because nature wants to reproduce and will surprise you with it's creativeness every once in awhile.

No you will not get a seedless fruit from the seeds. The fruit will be a normal fruit and hold many seeds. You will only get a seedless fruit if you graft the plant onto a root stock. I have a Locust tree started from a seed of a seedless Locust tree. It is a normal Locust tree and makes a huge mess every year. It needs to be cut down.

I want the wood.

tessa · October 21, 2017

But!

You never get a seed in a navel orange.
Why?, if plants want to procreate creatively?

MissS · October 21, 2017

Never??? Can you be so sure about that? I have.

gdaddybill · October 23, 2017

Lots of citrus come true from seed-nuceller (sp?) embryos.

Keen101 · October 23, 2017

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Originally Posted by tessa

But!

You never get a seed in a navel orange.
Why?, if plants want to procreate creatively?

Oranges i believe, like "seedless grapes" are sprayed with a chemical to start producing fruit without having been fertilized. Sometimes you will get a seed or two in these oranges or grapefruits or grapes because a bee got to them first.

tessa · October 28, 2017

and will they come true?

PhilaGardener · October 28, 2017

You expect them to lie?

Lasairfion · October 28, 2017

No, Mr Bond: I expect you to die.

I would expect that seeds like that wouldn't likely match the parent plant since who knows what hybrid genetics is going on to get plants to produce seedless fruit for a supermarket. Find one, plant it, and see!

October 21, 2017	#1
tessa Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: perth, western australia Posts: 1,031	Genetics genetics genetics Hi friends...long time! I'm back to ask a genetics question. I learned so much in the dwarf project but I'm having difficulty wrapping my brain around this question.... It's to do with clementine mandarines. They are supposedly a seedless variety, but once in a while, there is a seed or two in them. My question is: how? And my next question is: If planted, will they come true? You know, just a simple question for your Saturday afternoon. 😁

October 21, 2017	#2
MissS Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 3,149	How? Because nature wants to reproduce and will surprise you with it's creativeness every once in awhile. No you will not get a seedless fruit from the seeds. The fruit will be a normal fruit and hold many seeds. You will only get a seedless fruit if you graft the plant onto a root stock. I have a Locust tree started from a seed of a seedless Locust tree. It is a normal Locust tree and makes a huge mess every year. It needs to be cut down. __________________ ~ Patti ~

October 21, 2017	#5
MissS Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 3,149	Never??? Can you be so sure about that? I have. __________________ ~ Patti ~

October 23, 2017	#6
gdaddybill Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Burton, TX Posts: 294	Lots of citrus come true from seed-nuceller (sp?) embryos.

October 28, 2017	#8
tessa Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: perth, western australia Posts: 1,031	and will they come true?

October 28, 2017	#9
PhilaGardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Near Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,940	You expect them to lie?

October 28, 2017	#10
Lasairfion Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: UK Posts: 82	No, Mr Bond: I expect you to die. I would expect that seeds like that wouldn't likely match the parent plant since who knows what hybrid genetics is going on to get plants to produce seedless fruit for a supermarket. Find one, plant it, and see!