Amana Orange = Golden Ponderosa?

[Doug9345]

Interesting information from both TheFluffyBunny and Carol. Where in the US are you located FluffyBunny. It makes a difference when trying to transfer variety comparisons from one area to the next

[travis]

The way I read the story, Gary Haley got seeds for an orange tomato without a name, and after growing it for a few seasons, he gave it the name Amana Orange both for his love of his job with the Amana Corp., and his fondness of the Amana Colonies out in Amana, Iowa. This is supposedly sourced from first hand information: http://www.vegetablegardener.com/ite...u-glad-i-asked


Unfortunately, Tatiana's TB only mentions the Amana Corp., while Baker Creek mentions only Amana, Iowa; and Seed Savers Exchange only cites Amana Colonies as the namesake. Often it happens that the "real story" of a tomato is sorely incomplete regardless of the assumed veracity of the source.

As a side note, who knows what the alternate or former names of Amana Orange may be since it's "originator" acquired and grew out the seeds without the original variety's name.

[thefluffybunny]

<i>As far as the Yellow Brandywine goes, if it wasn't the Platfoot strain, get some seeds of that and try it again.</i>

Carol,

Thank you for the response. You convinced me to look for the Platfoot Strain of Yellow Brandy Wine, I guess for 2015 as it is getting late in the year. I note Tatiana’s list is in her shop, so hopefully it will be there next year : ) All these strains are obviously important, in order to get the right flavor. Thank you for all the helpful information and conversation – makes the forum feel like home.

If you think tomatoes are fun, apples are also a blast. So many flavors, textures etc. Nice thing in many areas you can grow them on P22 or M27 and they only take up as much room as a determinant tomato plant. And you only have to plant them once : ) You can grow some mighty fine apples up where you are at.

Doug asks:

<i>Where in the US are you located FluffyBunny. It makes a difference when trying to transfer variety comparisons from one area to the next </i>

IL about 45 miles due west of Chicago, so zone 4b/5a.

Travis notes:

<i>As a side note, who knows what the alternate or former names of Amana Orange may be since it's "originator" acquired and grew out the seeds without the original variety's name.</i>

Yeah, it puzzles me. There is a mystique around some plants. Some men fantasize about buxom 20 somethings and I find myself daydreaming about apples, tomatoes, and pears. There is no accounting for taste so it seems : )

[Wi-sunflower]

Bunny,

If you ever get to the Madison farmers market on the capitol square this spring, I'll have plants for the Platfoot brandywine. I sell plants and then produce there just about every Saturday from May thru Nov.

Carol

[tam91]

I'll be trying several orange/yellow varieties this year. I suspect we don't live too far apart, if you want to taste any.

[drew51]

Fluffy

Speaking of strains you fail to mention (if known) what strain of Mortgage Lifter made your permanent list?
I don't grow apples, but know what you say is true. I grow peaches, and the same thing. What is sad about poms and stone fruits is most cultivars are now extinct. Some Brit gardeners on the radio were looking at an English catalog from 1870, they list over 1000 apple cultivars for sale at the nursery. They also had over 2000 pears. In the orchard forum on GW, we researched this a bit and found that most were different. yes, like tomatoes some renamed types, but it looks like at least 1950 of the 2000 were unique. As accounts of growing them out were found.
With that said, I'm growing two peaches Thomas Jefferson grew and documented in his garden journal. Jefferson grew about 36 peach cultivars. Many do still exist, some are extinct. I have Indian Free and Old Mixon Free. Old Mixon Cling seems to have disappeared, but other clings he grew are still around.

Back to tomatoes, I really want reds mostly for sauce. that is my interest. But one needs a few fresh eating types too. I happen to be growing Amana Orange this year to try it. Azoychka sounds interesting too.
Also all the Kentucky yellows and oranges sold by Blue Ribbon might be worth trying? If you like that type
http://www.ebay.com/sch/blueribbontomatoes/m.html?item=380371449570&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&has h=item588fe7b6e2&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

[seaeagle]

There is now a new strain of Amana Orange called Amana Orange( Burrough’s Strain).


Amana Orange- Mid-season, Indeterminate, oblate, large, 1 pound orange fruits. A sport that came up in Gary Staley’s garden when he was working for Amana. Pkt. $2.50 Certified Organic Seed


Amana Orange( Burrough’s Strain)- Mid-season, this strain has been worked on for 10 years to produce more uniform crack free fruit and more even production. 2017 trials side by side had this strain yielding 50-75% more. Pkt. $2.50 Certified Organic Seed

Available at Sandhill


If I love the original maybe will try this