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Old March 30, 2016   #61
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Italian translation is the same --

Nano = dwarf, midget

Ciliega = cherry (a generic term, not a specific variety)

Mano = hand
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Thanks Carolyn, so maybe it's just a little cherry and not a dwarf plant at all. That would make sense.

Guess I'll have to grow it to find out how it does for me, but not this year.

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Old March 30, 2016   #63
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I went to find a third link for you and lost my post to you,but what I have on my puter now is the link to Pinetree seeds for your purple sprouting broccoli which I think they have

http://www.superseeds.com/
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Sadly, I've tried regular purple sprouting broccoli and it just gets too cold here for all but the hardiest and latest types. The early kind...which is what seems to be everywhere is supposed to give a harvest between nov and jan or dec and feb. Which is the dead of winter for me. I read some trial results and learned need extra early (summer type) or a very hardy late to very late (dtm around 240).

Of COURSE last year I had the Territorial seed catalog in my hands and saw exactly what I wanted but didn't order because I figured why spend the extra on shipping and just get it with the rest in the spring. They don't carry the darned one I wanted any more in the catalog or on the website.
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Did either of you read my post above about the Flortis cherry,post #38? I said that I lost some links when fetching another one .If not I guess when I have time I'll try to again find the thread here at Tville,with Mark commenting,also Alex from Canada,and the proper name for it is Ciliega.No such thing as a Flortis cherry.

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Just read your post today. I just read about "the marko's flortis cherry" and thought there is my perfect drying cherry for this year. I'm also growing Pachino which I thought the same thing. My mom's side of the family is from Sicily and I'm planning on giving plants to my mom and jars of the finished tomatoes as gifts for the holidays this year. I'll be sure to correctly label it Ciliega (and Pachino) Sundried Tomatoes.
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Thank you Tormato! Pm is sent.
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Old March 30, 2016   #66
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Curious if Carolyn could find this one

Lake Plum
https://npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlo...l.aspx?1836760

Tried to contact the donor via Facebook but received no answers

The second one is not rare, but seems impossible to order in/from Europe, and is Alberto's shattering.
Sorry,I totally over looked your post.

As for the NE Grin data base for Lake Plum,I think the best thing to do is to contact that woman at IA from 2004 since I could find no other source for it.

The correct name is Alberto Shatters and it's a currant one, S.pimpinellifolium, that indeed the fruits do drop and do shatter,aka burst open.

Tania's link for it

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/A...b=General_Info

I just checked and indeed Glenn Drowns at Sandhill Preservation is offering it at his 2016 website, I'm just reading from his 2016 catalog which is not being sent to everyone anymore due to the high cost of mailing.

What Glenn says is
mid season, indet, tough skin and seedy and crunchy, very high yields, very tiny fruits in abundance.

Doesn't sound that great to me,but then you must have your reasons for wanting it.

Just one person lists it in the 2016 SSE Yearbook for SSE members only.

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I would like to find a US source for Plumito. All I have found is Uk places that don't ship to here. Tania has it on her website, but looks like nobody has grown it and no seed available.
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I would like to find a US source for Plumito. All I have found is Uk places that don't ship to here. Tania has it on her website, but looks like nobody has grown it and no seed available.
Wow looks like a bell pepper!
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Old March 31, 2016   #69
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I would like to find a US source for Plumito. All I have found is Uk places that don't ship to here. Tania has it on her website, but looks like nobody has grown it and no seed available.
If it really is an outstanding variety and a must have,then why not consider contacting one of our Tville members from the UK,having them buy seeds for you and sending them to you and then reimbursing them for same.

https://www.google.com/search?q=plum..._AUIBigA&dpr=1

I didn't check out any of the seed sources,especially from Canada to see if every single one would not ship to the US.

But I was interested to see who the original source was from the UK,and it was John W,whom I knew very well and he used to list in the SSE YEarbook and it was from him that I first got seeds for Tangella,Craigella and Tigerella,the ones first bred at the Glasshouse Research Inst in the UK.

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It seems like one of the last times Plumito was discussed was in a thread that Tatiana listed most popular least popular tomatoes based on page views. Since she posted in '13, more 'matoes (somewhere between 500 or 1000) were added so Plumito is no longer in the bottom 50.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/w/inde...00&offset=5900
Now the least popular tomatoes are (assuming some vague correlation between rarity, accessibility, interest for purposes of thread) Some of these aren't 'matos since she lists other things too.

Plaisir d'ete‏‎ (186 views)
Red Streaks Mustard‏‎ (179 views)
Monastyrskaya Trapeza Krasnaya‏‎ (177 views)
Sultan‏‎ (176 views)
Grüne Beere‏‎ (165 views)
Dolka Dalnevostochnaja‏‎ (158 views)
Solanum centrale‏‎ (150 views)
Jolie Coeur‏‎ (150 views)
Harzer Kind‏‎ (146 views)
Pinky Tuscadero‏‎ (146 views)
Johannisbeertomate, orange‏‎ (129 views)
Indigo Kumquat‏‎ (123 views)
Orange Bleu‏‎ (118 views)
Avstraliyskiy Gigant - Pobeditel‏‎ (96 views)
Bychie Serdtse Minusinskoe Kistevoe‏‎ (92 views)
Dwarf Crimson Sockeye‏‎ (90 views)
Kievlyanka‏‎ (86 views)
Anna Aasa Yellow‏‎ (81 views)
Burgess crack proof‏‎ (79 views)
Zagadka Doliny Roz‏‎ (79 views)
Napa Giant‏‎ (78 views)
Candy Sweet Icicle‏‎ (74 views)
Malinowy Kapturek‏‎ (72 views)
Norwood Meiners‏‎ (68 views)
Yellow Radiance‏‎ (68 views)
Kolovyi‏‎ (65 views)
Malinowy Warschawski‏‎ (62 views)
Saraev Rozovyi Novyi‏‎ (60 views)
Bukasow Mark‏‎ (59 views)
Blgarska Khala‏‎ (58 views)
Zwart Heil Lekken‏‎ (54 views)
Grosse Hâtive D'Orléans‏‎ (53 views)
Red Target‏‎ (52 views)
Jitka‏‎ (49 views)
Negro Tegurta‏‎ (45 views)
Lejcukovo Oranzove‏‎ (43 views)
Loka‏‎ (41 views)
Roteno Andalucia‏‎ (35 views)
Buisson‏‎ (35 views)
Corse‏‎ (35 views)
Olirose De Saint Domingue‏‎ (34 views)
Grosse De Luzeret‏‎ (29 views)
Citrina‏‎ (25 views)
Odeon‏‎ (25 views)
Macizo Montserrat‏‎ (25 views)
Gallego‏‎ (25 views)
Salobre‏‎ (25 views)
Rosa Aragon‏‎ (23 views)
Rama Mallorca‏‎ (22 views)
Rastrero‏‎ (22 views)
Dos Cossiols‏‎ (20 views)

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Old April 1, 2016   #71
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I would like to find a US source for Plumito. All I have found is Uk places that don't ship to here. Tania has it on her website, but looks like nobody has grown it and no seed available.
These will ship it to the US, but shipping cost is high. You could probably get more varieties for the same shipping price.

http://www.mammothonion.co.uk/shop/8/index.htm

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Small explanation:
A fortnight ago, I asked Tania to put into the database, the tomatoes:Citrina
Dos Cossiols
Gallego
Jitka
Macizo Montserrat
Negro Tegurta
Odeon
Rama Mallorca
Rastrero
Rosa Aragon
Roteno Andalucia
Salobre
So far, these are just empty pages in which I will addt pictures and descriptions in the shortest time Vladimír
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Ah that would explain it. Dwarf crimson sockeye is in the 50 least popular too but that's probably because come out this year for the dwarf tomato project.
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It seems like one of the last times Plumito was discussed was in a thread that Tatiana listed most popular least popular tomatoes based on page views. Since she posted in '13, more 'matoes (somewhere between 500 or 1000) were added so Plumito is no longer in the bottom 50.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/w/inde...00&offset=5900
Now the least popular tomatoes are (assuming some vague correlation between rarity, accessibility, interest for purposes of thread) Some of these aren't 'matos since she lists other things too.

Plaisir d'ete‏‎ (186 views)
Red Streaks Mustard‏‎ (179 views)
Monastyrskaya Trapeza Krasnaya‏‎ (177 views)
Sultan‏‎ (176 views)
Grüne Beere‏‎ (165 views)
Dolka Dalnevostochnaja‏‎ (158 views)
Solanum centrale‏‎ (150 views)
Jolie Coeur‏‎ (150 views)
Harzer Kind‏‎ (146 views)
Pinky Tuscadero‏‎ (146 views)
Johannisbeertomate, orange‏‎ (129 views)
Indigo Kumquat‏‎ (123 views)
Orange Bleu‏‎ (118 views)
Avstraliyskiy Gigant - Pobeditel‏‎ (96 views)
Bychie Serdtse Minusinskoe Kistevoe‏‎ (92 views)
Dwarf Crimson Sockeye‏‎ (90 views)
Kievlyanka‏‎ (86 views)
Anna Aasa Yellow‏‎ (81 views)
Burgess crack proof‏‎ (79 views)
Zagadka Doliny Roz‏‎ (79 views)
Napa Giant‏‎ (78 views)
Candy Sweet Icicle‏‎ (74 views)
Malinowy Kapturek‏‎ (72 views)
Norwood Meiners‏‎ (68 views)
Yellow Radiance‏‎ (68 views)
Kolovyi‏‎ (65 views)
Malinowy Warschawski‏‎ (62 views)
Saraev Rozovyi Novyi‏‎ (60 views)
Bukasow Mark‏‎ (59 views)
Blgarska Khala‏‎ (58 views)
Zwart Heil Lekken‏‎ (54 views)
Grosse Hâtive D'Orléans‏‎ (53 views)
Red Target‏‎ (52 views)
Jitka‏‎ (49 views)
Negro Tegurta‏‎ (45 views)
Lejcukovo Oranzove‏‎ (43 views)
Loka‏‎ (41 views)
Roteno Andalucia‏‎ (35 views)
Buisson‏‎ (35 views)
Corse‏‎ (35 views)
Olirose De Saint Domingue‏‎ (34 views)
Grosse De Luzeret‏‎ (29 views)
Citrina‏‎ (25 views)
Odeon‏‎ (25 views)
Macizo Montserrat‏‎ (25 views)
Gallego‏‎ (25 views)
Salobre‏‎ (25 views)
Rosa Aragon‏‎ (23 views)
Rama Mallorca‏‎ (22 views)
Rastrero‏‎ (22 views)
Dos Cossiols‏‎ (20 views)
Here's the problem I have with that list.

The # of views does not correlate with popularity as I see it b/c many on that list are simply not known to others and/or there are no seed sources available.

Let me give you just one example.

There are 5 on that list that Vladimir from the Czech Republic sent toTania, he has been sending several from his Spanish Project and also helping Tania with the backgrounds of others so she can change what she has written.

Of the ones I'm referring to that Vladimir sent her,I have the very same seeds that he sent me and are now being sent to my seed producers for grow out this summer.

So no one will know about them until Shawn/Carolyn gets the seed offer up for next January,and I've already sent seeds for them to Gerardo in Mexico,since he offered to be a seed producer when I put up the thread at Tville about needing more volunteer seed producers since I had so many new seeds.

That's just one example but I could also address the same for many more on that list.

There are many that Tania doesn't have a page for,so when she doesn't I first do a search here at Tville,which often helps a lot, then Google it,if nada,the go to Ventmarin in France,no seeds sold but at least I can find out more about the variety.All in French,but can be translated to English,but it goes much slower.

One of the big advantages of Tville is that we have so many members from many many countries,and they can help as well.

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Wow looks like a bell pepper!
Interesting isn't it! Looks like it will be good for salads, paste and for putting on bologna and mayo sandwiches. Some of the smaller tomatoes take a bit to cut up, but they such good flavor on sandwiches.

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These will ship it to the US, but shipping cost is high. You could probably get more varieties for the same shipping price.

http://www.mammothonion.co.uk/shop/8/index.htm

Steve
I am so glad you posted Steve. I went back to the site and hunted again about shipping. I guess I should have read more carefully. I see now where they send seeds but not plants. Dummy me. Price of seed, nor shipping matter to me when it is one I would really like to try. It just means cutting back on buying junk food like my potato chips and candy bars and such. Thanks for the tip. They had a few other things at their site I would like to try too.

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Small explanation:
A fortnight ago, I asked Tania to put into the database, the tomatoes:Citrina
Dos Cossiols
Gallego
Jitka
Macizo Montserrat
Negro Tegurta
Odeon
Rama Mallorca
Rastrero
Rosa Aragon
Roteno Andalucia
Salobre
So far, these are just empty pages in which I will addt pictures and descriptions in the shortest time Vladimír
They all sound fascinating Vladimir. Looking forward to when you add the pictures and descriptions.
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