Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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June 11, 2015 | #46 |
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more ramblings
Thanks to all with the suggestions etc.
I am trying to eventually have the fewest of hybrids and greater part heirlooms so to this quest it would seem Super Sioux is one to add to the garden just in case it is a super duper heat year . Someone mentioned Kootenai was an interesting heat tolerant one ......... hmmmmm wow a small container tomato as well as heat tolerant ..... yellow pear was mentioned again....with Money maker heirloom for the hot year.. Sweetie Cherry .....and Matt's wild cherry ...Roma VFN I guess I will have to stick with Big beef as a generic Hybrid /disease resistant/heat tolerant back up . Again thanks to all for your suggestions
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July 3, 2015 | #47 |
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Heat tolerance most timely this year !
Well it is July 3,
as I suspected in May there could be Major Climate adjustments this year that could affect the Tomato Culture ! Today on Vancouver Island from Campbell River South there is a Sport fishing ban on in creeks and Rivers ...due to a Level 4 (highest Level ) drought. the local rivers have smashed the previous recorded low level record and are at about a quarter flow of the record ....and heading lower ! NO SNOW PACK ... no skiing in June , Hydro electric generation was suspended on one local river June 14th ! 5 years ago we had a summer of only 4 days at 20C/70F or above till the August long weekend . Right now it looks like we will not have much lows BELOW 20C/70F in the next week and every day highs of 30-34 C/ 85-93F. Thanks again for all your input it seemed to be a bit more timely than even I anticipated this year ........... In this heat I would now have considered Porter ! ha ha ha who Knew ! So peoples of the PNW stock up on Super Sioux !
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July 9, 2015 | #48 |
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All right! I will definitely try it next year.
I have been thinking of you, since I saw that most of Canada is actually cooler now. But I guess this was not true on our coast. I have been joking we have switched weather with the East coast! Mountain Princess is a trooper of a plant. She did not grow very tall at all, very bushy and short. She's loaded up with tomatoes and I expect some to start blushing any day. I am getting Cherokee Purple and Black Krims now, but I started those earlier. Mountain Princess was a late addition and she is doing very well. I am excited to see how she tastes. As far as a tomato that did not do well in this year's heat for me - Anna Russian. The seedling I bought seemed healthy enough (droopy, but that is normal). However I think my mistake was putting Anna in a smaller pot (she would obviously like a much larger one) and also in a hotter spot. The other russians did not get as much heat and they are doing fine. Anna is suffering from one or more diseases and only has produced 8 tomatoes. I don't know if this is because she is a russian variety, that she did not tolerate heat well, but it's my best guess. Jenn
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July 10, 2015 | #49 |
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shade shade shade shade..........
that is what the Dr. ordered this year . I have some determinant plants that have given buckets of red fruit and they are done ! fast and early .........Time to rip out and go for second crop as well .....these plants have progressed about 6 weeks early ! This has never happened this way before . 0 precipitation for July with Blue skies only interrupted from the haze and smoke from numerous forest fires !
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July 10, 2015 | #50 | |
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Chop the stem and branches off, allow the stump to have a rest, add some liquid fertlizer and you see small branches begin to form around the stump. This supposedly invigorates the plant and gives it a boost to 'live again'. Might work.. I think I'll try it with my mini dwarf - once it stops producing, I'll chop the leaves off and see if the cycle starts again |
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July 10, 2015 | #51 |
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Well BlackBear, take a look at this map of North American temperatures in June:
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/new...r-stats/53904/ You're somewhere in that Red blob of Heat in the west.. and yes, I'm in the dark blue band of nippy on the east side... brrrrr. We are sure having a cool one so far, but that's okay... I'm sticking with the quest for cool setters. You can always grow em early. |
July 10, 2015 | #52 | |
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July 10, 2015 | #53 | |
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My first blush in the greenhouse is an F2 of Stupice X Black Cherry. Second blush is an F2 of Kimberley X Zolotye Kupola. Plus one for Kimberley! |
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July 10, 2015 | #54 | |
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As well as Bush early girl ...same deal ... ( good yield ..but I chalk this one under hybrid misadventures !....the trial is over for this hybrid and...Celebrity ) The shady area ones are most healthy and producing ...and developing ..later (or right on NORMAL season time) same with Siletz Big Big yield ...but this year I was so impressed with the development and yield and looks of the plants ..under these conditions ...I may try the chop and regrow idea to see how it goes .....given the parthenocarpic nature of Siletz ...you never know as well . I have a few Silvery fir that loaded up ...they can be rippers ....even though I know they give 2 crops anyway ....I have other plants waiting in the wings. I have staggered some late plants ready to be planted in other areas just in case !
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July 10, 2015 | #55 | |
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I also miss my normal cool varieties being able to show up the regular varieties ...in a cool year ....less water demand ..less heat stress etc. The coastal cool variety game I had figured out ...then this ......... Blue Skies By Irving Berlin I was blue, just as blue as I could be Ev'ry day was a cloudy day for me Then good luck came a-knocking at my door Skies were gray but they're not gray anymore Blue skies Smiling at me Nothing but blue skies Do I see ha ha ha ha
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April 13, 2018 | #56 |
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This thread is a little dated now but considering how cold our spring has been so far I think it's relative for a lot of people in that we might go from cold spring into a heatwave of a summer. And of course the PNW situation of coldish nights and hotter days...
I just stumbled upon a said list of cold and heat tolerant varieties according to someone on another site. (Several of these are already mentioned but I just copied and pasted) Heat and cold tolerant tomatoes Aussie Black Cherry Black from Tula Black Prince Celebrity (hybrid) Coldset Cuautli Salubong Djodah Dragon's Eye Early Girl (hybrid) Fireworks Glacier Kimberly Marmande Notchli Persimmon Pineapple Pink Bumblebee Pink Siberian Tiger (grows well in cool or hot climates according to mariannasheirloomseeds.com) Principe Borghese Pruden's Purple Punta Banda Purple Bumblebee Siletz Stupice Sun Sugar (hybrid) Taos Yellow Pear I'm growing Southern Night this year and so far the seedlings have been my largest growing seedlings with colder temps this spring. It's mentioned as being a hot weather variety but it's handling the cold like a champ as well for me. Al Last edited by Al@NC; April 13, 2018 at 12:24 AM. Reason: removed links for varieties... |
April 13, 2018 | #57 |
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I can vouch for Stupice. have seen it set fruit right up against the glass in my greenhouse, where others drop all their blossoms.
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April 13, 2018 | #58 |
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I have still yet to try Stupice! I'm a Bloody Butcher fan and from what I've read they are very similar but I'm going to have to break down and compare one day.
From reading here on T-ville, it seems there is about 4 different versions of Stupice as well so idk. I'll probably just order from Tatiana... Al |
April 14, 2018 | #59 |
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Bah ! extra cool spring and not ready this year ....
I have lots of seedlings so I trialed a few out in a protected open tunnel and we had a little frost showing on the west side of shed roof ..but not on east side etc. Perhaps a little early even in protected tunnel where soil temp. climbed to 18 C during the day .. but gets cold at night . In this situation Silvery fir , Latah , Kimberly , Juliet ,Chernamor , Sophie's choice seem to be doing o.k. I am a bit chicken this year and holding back even with the protection .... May 2nd is my normal magic date for placing out with protection . I have paused on Stupice for awhile as the variety I was getting was not the same ones as before etc. I trialed the Yablonka rossi and has a nice quick growth inside ...but a bit more tender than stupice /Kimberly / I have had great luck with Matina ....but again not as quite an early start as the others .. I had one year in a raised bed a bloody butcher was miraculous production . I guess we all have to start with some early /cool ...before the "Super Fantastic " hybrids kick in ..lol
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April 14, 2018 | #60 | |
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Stupické polní rané: Stupice: If you decide you would prefer `Stupice' then I can send you what I have left from a Tatiana order from a couple of years ago. rg |
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