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Old November 26, 2016   #46
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You're Welcome Braybright. I am very glad to see it has grown well for you in UT.

DM, Leutschauer should grow like weeds for you in the Dallas area.

As TC wrote - Baker Creek has seeds. "A lovely drying pepper that comes from Matrafured, Hungary. It has been grown there since the 1800s when it was brought from Leutschau (Slovakia). The medium-hot paprikas have great flavor, are terrific for drying, and make a delicious spicy powder. Very rare!" 5 Stars http://www.rareseeds.com/leutschauer-paprika-pepper/

I still want to try the Alma Paprika. Peppers are the one thing that grows like a weed here.
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Old November 26, 2016   #47
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Because of this thread I added both of those to my wish list, if I don't get them I'll buy some and share. I never thought to grow peppers for paprika but now I have to try it. Thanks everyone.
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Old November 26, 2016   #48
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Interesting Blog from Budapest about Paprika...




http://budapestblog.luxuryhotelsbuda...prika-and-why/


Paprika is not simply a popular seasoning in Hungary, but its at the very core of Hungarian cuisine (I have also personally realized it while living in New Orleans). It is used for its flavor and for its bright color in two varieties: édes or sweet and erős or hot/ spicy. Most households will have both for Hungarian dishes like goulash (gulyás, or gulyásleves: say goo-yaash), which is the flagship Hungarian dish (alas, slightly threatened by more modern and healthy cuisine trends). If you think you have eaten goulash, think twice: most of the goulash or canned goulash sold in western countries is not resembling the real goulash (it’s like having a real New Orleanian gumbo soup or getting a canned gumbo in Sweden). Another version of goulash is made with beans (babgulyás): it is wonderful, very filling though, so better eaten for lunch to give your stomach some time to digest it.
Further typical Hungarian dishes made with ground paprika are different stews (beef, pork, chicken, mutton, most typically), which we call pörkölt (perr-curlt) in Hungarian, fish soup, lecsó, ‘paprikás’ anything as ‘paprikás’ means ‘with paprika’ so you can have paprikás krumpli (potato stew with sausages) or paprikás csirke ( a type of chicken stew), paprikás gomba (mushroom stew), etc. As you can see, Hungarian like stewing all kinds of things. I remember eating ‘fake paprika‘ dishes, which doesn’t mean that the paprika is fake: ‘fake’ refers to the fact that there is no meat in the stew (e.g. green pea stew with noodles), so it’s only imitation of the real stew – by default made with meat. Of course, an economical solution for more vegetarian days. What else? Other Hungarian dishes with paprika include – well, almost every spicy, salty dish will get a little color with paprika – depending on the cooking style of the kitchen queen or king (green bean soup, stuffed cabbage, different vegetable dishes thickened with roux – főzelék in Hungarian).
Best Paprika Brands in Hungary: where to buy and what to buy?

If you are not sure what kind of paprika you should buy in Hungary, the safest choice would be to go for Szeged or Kalocsa paprika. Both Szeged and Kalocsa are cities in Hungary competing for the title of Paprika Capital for centuries. You can buy it in most supermarkets at normal price, or in the Central Market Hall in decorative packaging. The quality range goes from extra delicatesse, delicatesse, noble sweet, hot delicatesse, and rose. Here are the major paprika locations on the Tourist Map (see the red signs for the Central Market Hall, Kalocsa and Szeged)
Szeged
By today, I think Szeged is typically associated with the best paprika in Hungary. Why? Probably for several reasons: a, the paprika plant spread and most paprika dishes come from the Szeged region (although there are wonderful paprikas grown in Kalocsa and other parts of the country too) b, better marketing – already exporting to western countries (incl. the US) in the 1930’s c, biochemist Professor Albert Szent-Györgyi got his Nobel in 1937 for discovering vitamin C, which, as you may have guessed, happened to be very high content in Szeged paprika. And this fact in itself, seems to have won the Paprika Capital title for Szeged. To put Albert Szent-György★i’s discovery more scientifically:
Waltner treated the effects of vitamin A found in the Hungarian capsicum, while Albert Szent-Györgyi examined vitamin C. He discovered that capsicum [i.e. paprika] is the main source of vitamin C. He produced it in a large amount thus creating the possibility to state the exact chemical structure of this vitamin, also called ascorbic acid. He also elaborated a technology for the production of a paprika sort with condensed vitamin C, a most healthy spice. … He discovered the catalysis of dicarbon acid C4, a basis for the Krebs circulation process. His researches concerning the peroxide-system led to the discovery of the reducing agent necessary for oxidation – the ascorbic acid. He established the compounds of hexuron acid, identified it with the ascorbic acid – and this is vitamin C.
Kalocsa
Growing paprika in the Kalocsa region (mid-southern part of Hungary) goes back to the 18th century, but industrial production only started in the 1920’s. Kalocsa was in strong competition with Szeged, especially in the sweet paprika (édes paprika) market. Their extra strength is that Kalocsa folk dresses are beautiful and girls look pretty with the paprika.
Paprika Garlands
I think I am lucky enough to say that I was making paprika garlands with my grandfather. It is an old tradition in Hungary and a practical way of letting the paprikas dry on long strings hung out in front of the house. Although a paprika garland is also very decorative, you won’t see many these days: it is more simple to buy the ground version (as dry paprika powder or as wet paprika cream, like Erős Pista).
Did you know?
0, Paprika contains Vitamin C, anitoxidants and capsaicin. Hungarians use paprika in dishes that you could describe as ‘tons of paprika,’ which turns out to be a healthy thing!
1, Paprika is a Hungaricum, despite the fact that paprika as such only came to Europe in the 16th century thanks to the doctor of Columbus, Diego Chanca. Paprika (or capsicum in Latin) comes from Central America. Europeans were quite suspicious about the new plant: for two centuries it was only used as a decoration. Paprika came to Hungary in the 16th century: there are documents from 1570 about the ‘red Turkish pepper‘ as it was called at that time. In the 17th century there are already family names with Paprika.
2, Paprika became a popular part of cuisine in the 1780’s in Hungary. The technique of making sweet paprika was gradually developed in Hungary from the 1850’s by getting rid of the seeds and stems, only keeping the pods.
3, One of the most popular TV channel in Hungary is TV Paprika: a cooking program
4, To make dishes hot, besides spicy ground paprika, several Hungarians also like wet paprika cream (especially in meat soups, goulash and stews) and the small hot green pepper originally imported from the excellent Bulgarian gardens in the 1870’s.
5, There is a Paprika Museum in Szeged with standard exhibitions of the History of Szeged Paprika as well as the Pick Salami. Entrance fees are dirt cheap (at the time of writing in 2008: 480 HUF/adult, 360 HUF/children, students and pensioners). Szeged is about 170 km/ 106 miles from Budapest. There is also a Paprika Museum in Kalocsa (see the map above).
6, paprika is NOT red pepper. It is totally different.
sources: Hungarian Folk Lexicon (in Hungarian), and Szeged Paprika Museum site

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Old November 26, 2016   #49
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Paprika garland=Ristra.

Interesting fact that paprika originated in Mexico.
Here is an (authentic)Texas paprika I made with dried hot and sweet peppers.
I cant tell one bit of difference between it and hot Spanish paprika.
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Old March 19, 2017   #50
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I am growing a variety that is called "Alma Paprika". They are similar to cherry bomb in shape and size.
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Old March 19, 2017   #51
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Gardeneer, I planted some Alma seeds, but they didn't grow. I've been looking at Alma pictures for two + years now. They look so good, but I'm stuck at maybe next year - that's what I said last year.

I do have three Leutschauer plants looking really good in party cups. I'll be sharing seeds again if they grow and produce.
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Old March 20, 2017   #52
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Grew Alma Paprika last year. Sets an incredible amount of peppers on a very compact plant. Flowers early (and low on the plant) but the peppers take a long time to go from their immature white form, to fully ripe. The fully ripe peppers, when dried, make a rich, deep red paprika with a sweet flavor. SSE seems to think it is a 'hot' pepper, but it has been completely sweet for me. If there is a down side, it is that the sugar content was so high that the powder tended to cake up... I threw a couple large plastic buttons in the bottle to help break it up before use. Blending with a hotter pepper might reduce the caking, I'll have to try that the next time I grow it.

I grew another pepper last year (Pelso) that was very similar to Alma, in its compact growth habit, white color immature, and dense fruit set. The peppers were conical, thick walled, and had a moderate amount of heat. Most of the heat was in the placenta, so I preserved as much of that as I could when drying. It made a pleasantly warm powder, just a little stronger than store-bought paprika. This will probably be my main choice for paprika in the future. It might be interesting if dried in the immature white stage (an experiment for this year).

A purple jalapeno that I grew several years ago, when dried in the fully ripened stage, also made a sweet powder with mild heat, and a deep maroon color.

Tried growing some Leutschauer in 2015 (received in a trade several years ago), but in spite of being sent two commercial packets of seed (!!) none of the seed was viable. Based upon the numerous recommendations in this thread, I'll try it again in the future.
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Old May 16, 2017   #53
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Paprika has become one of the most indispensable spices for me. I use it in lots of different types of cooking.

I have grown Alma, Leutschauer, and Feher Ozon. Alma has grown reasonably well and is on the milder side. Leutshchauer failed (I take the blame, though I didn't figure out why). But Feher Ozon is my go-to now. Prolific and with a bit more kick. Great pepper.
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Old May 16, 2017   #54
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Missed this thread 'till now.
Enjoyed it quite a bit, and have alma and leutschauer growing along.
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Old May 17, 2017   #55
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Quote:
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Feher Ozon is my go-to now. Prolific and with a bit more kick. Great pepper.


Good to know! I had very poor germination on a couple of peppers I had planned to grow so I have some vacant spots to fill. Feher Ozon, on the other hand, had 100% germination and I have a couple of extra seedlings that need a home!
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Old June 8, 2017   #56
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I am growing a variety that is called "Alma Paprika". They are similar to cherry bomb in shape and size.
here is an update:
Picture of one of my Alma Paprika plants.
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Old June 9, 2017   #57
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I'm growing Boldog paprika this year. It was recommended by Rosalind Creasy, who writes about beautiful edible gardens (aka edible landscaping) and is a local gardening celeb.
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Can't wait to hear your review!
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well, I didn't see this until now also... glad I have the leutschauer peppers already growing for a neighbor. I will pop a few more of them into the pepper row as soon as it cools off. it is 90 today so I will wait a couple days but I am sincerely delighted to find this thread. thanks for the start.

after reading the link from Mark on the Hungarian peppers... what about the szegedi variety? is that a pepper anyone would use for paprika? it is a sweet pepper. My inlaws have always had it in their garden so now I grow it for them... usable for paprika?
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Here is a run down on what we call peppers around the world.
And how it gets confusing when we take part of a word from another country and use it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsic...d_common_names
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