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Old January 24, 2016   #1
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Default Grape Arbors and Grapes.

Yesterday I was at the store looking for something and they had the grape plants out for sale.
So I bought four of them of different varieties.
They are Mars (black slip skin) Thompson Seedless (green) Flame (red) and Monukka (black).
They are planted in all four corners of the arbor between the raised beds in front by the corner posts supporting the arbor.
about 10 feet apart one way and 6 feet apart the other way.

I tried grapes a few years ago and the stock I bought didn't have one root on them but they grew and then died about 2 years later because of no water.
They were bought from Lowes.
Yes I planted them the right direction.
These I bought from Home Depot and they all had big bushy fresh roots growing on them.
They were advertised as 2 year old plants.
So I soaked them in a big pot of water in the house washed all of the dirt off dug holes spread the roots out and put some nice soil back in the planting holes.
There is no way these things will do without water now because they can drink from the raised beds.
I hope they all make it because I think it will be pretty cool to have three different colored grapes all growing on the same arbor.
They are also early mid and late season grapes this should allow me to eat grapes for a longer period of time.
In the pictures you are about to see I have green ribbons tied to where they are planted so I dont trip over them.
If anybody wants to post about their grapes and how they do it please feel free to put it here if you so desire, be my guest.
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I looked and couldn't find another thread on grapes so I started one.
Here is the start.
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good luck. They look good. Now hang some hummingbird feeders to help control the drosophila fly if you have it in your area.
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good luck. They look good. Now hang some hummingbird feeders to help control the drosophila fly if you have it in your area.
Hummingbird feeder and wind chimes are already there.
This is where I sit in the spring to have my evening beer and watch the humming birds.
In the picture on the left side you will see a 2x4 screwed to the side of the raised bed painted magenta.
I mixed paint I had to come up with the color and it is where I sit the beer.
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Monukka grape starting to grow.
All of them have buds swelling.
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Worth,
Noticed the cactus plants. Have never grown any so excuse the maybe stupid question. Can the cactus and the grapes both thrive on similar amounts of water? Imagine they can live but maintain really good health?
So far looks like you got excellent well rooted grape stock to work with.
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Noticed the cactus plants. Have never grown any so excuse the maybe stupid question. Can the cactus and the grapes both thrive on similar amounts of water? Imagine they can live but maintain really good health?
So far looks like you got excellent well rooted grape stock to work with.
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The agave and the cactus are in containers.
Grapes dont really need a ton of water they grow wild here and live right along side the cactus and agave in the wild.
Dryer hotter years are also good wine years because of the amount of sugar is more.
I have done a ton of reading on making wine and wine grapes.
I had no idea some of the things they did to make wine sweet after it was made.
Like adding grape juice.
I dont plan on making wine I will be happy just to sit out there and eat grapes.


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Grape update they are all coming along nicely.
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those are looking great Worth.
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Looking really good. How much were the plants?
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Looking really good. How much were the plants?
$7.50 a piece and there are four of them.
One American slip skin and three European.

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Looks like a real nice setup
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They look to be putting on good growth! Nice! Having some ripening during different times of the growing season is nice, and all different varieties to boot!

I have a couple different table grape varieties growing in my GH. One white and one purple. They have seeds, but I eat them with the pulp, fresh, then spit out the seeds. I also make grape juice with them. Yummy. I will have to find the pictures to post..

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They look to be putting on good growth! Nice! Having some ripening during different times of the growing season is nice, and all different varieties to boot!

I have a couple different table grape varieties growing in my GH. One white and one purple. They have seeds, but I eat them with the pulp, fresh, then spit out the seeds. I also make grape juice with them. Yummy. I will have to find the pictures to post..

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Ginny they used to sell what they called back seeded grapes in the store around the holidays I have no idea what they were but I wish I did.
These are the ones that I made fruit salad with.
I was told they may have been concord.
Another thing I have noticed that bothers me is they are picking the grapes too soon.
The trusses are as green as can be.
I know what a good Thomson seedless can taste like from the vine when they are ripe.
The store bought ones aren't it.
I simply cannot stand a sour grape.

Next winter when the new growth goes dormant I am going to start propagating what I have to plant out in other places.

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Very nice looking grape stock that you have there. Once established, I think you will be very happy with them!
My Italian uncle learned me well as a child with how to grow grapes, now I have to reach back into my mind and try to remember all of what he said. I have space for them and have been thinking about it, but they would be totally separate from my raised bed gardens. Side project, hmmmm....
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