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Old 1 Week Ago   #571
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They are gorgeous, KarenO! Kudos and congrats for all the hard work of getting stable (and so fast! )
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Great work Karen, you brilliantly met the challenge of Russsian experts !


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Have been following developments with interest Karen. Every thing being equal, how many do you expect to release this year?
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True Colours, and Taiga
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I just meant that up to now I only knew the communications of Andrey, a well-known expert from Eastern Europe. I’m quite sure he’s happy to see his passion for tomatoes that can withstand severe cold is shared by a Canadian lady.

Here are some of Andrev’s suggestions. Sorry I can’t give the links, I didn’t paste them in my notes.

“Actually there are plenty of Russian amateur and commercial tomato varieties to survive at -7C (19,4F) and even lower at -14C (7F).
Gruntovyi, Limonchik, Sibiryak, Orenburzhets, , Spiridonovskiy etc.
Spiridonovskaya. survived four frozen to -14 °.
Orenburzhets. Endured three consecutive freeze: -5 °, -7 °, -10 °.
Kemerovets. Withstood freezing -7 °, -10 °, -13 °.
Srednerosloe. When tested survived two freezing and one -9 ° -7 °.
Stepniak 50. Went through five freezing to -10
Siberian. Srednerosloe withstood seven frozen to -10 °.
Lemon. Through three freeze to -10 °.
M-16. Tests: one frost -3 °, two - on -10 °.”

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I just meant that up to now I only knew the communications of Andrey, a well-known expert from Eastern Europe. I’m quite sure he’s happy to see his passion for tomatoes that can withstand severe cold is shared by a Canadian lady.

Here are some of Andrev’s suggestions. Sorry I can’t give the links, I didn’t paste them in my notes.

“Actually there are plenty of Russian amateur and commercial tomato varieties to survive at -7C (19,4F) and even lower at -14C (7F).
Gruntovyi, Limonchik, Sibiryak, Orenburzhets, , Spiridonovskiy etc.
Spiridonovskaya. survived four frozen to -14 °.
Orenburzhets. Endured three consecutive freeze: -5 °, -7 °, -10 °.
Kemerovets. Withstood freezing -7 °, -10 °, -13 °.
Srednerosloe. When tested survived two freezing and one -9 ° -7 °.
Stepniak 50. Went through five freezing to -10
Siberian. Srednerosloe withstood seven frozen to -10 °.
Lemon. Through three freeze to -10 °.
M-16. Tests: one frost -3 °, two - on -10 °.”

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to be very clear I bred these to produce large and special tomatoes suitable to mature in a shorter season. I make no claims at all to tolerance of frost or subzero survival. Definitely not part of my breeding goals at all.

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to be very clear I bred these to produce large and special tomatoes suitable to mature in a shorter season. I make no claims at all to tolerance of frost or subzero survival. Definitely not part of my breeding goals at all.

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I stand corrected. There's room for everybody in the vast field of research.
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Sibling to Midnight Sun in my true North series this is:
Taiga
Large tricolour clear epi hearts on indeterminate potato leaf plants. Sweet tangy rich flavour reminiscent of Its parent Captain lucky.
The original cross was Ludmilla pink heart x Captain Lucky by Karen Olivier.
This unique tomato can also show prominent fruit striping even when fully ripe and distinctly more visible yellow flesh than its segregation sibling True Colours which has much more pink in the interior. Fairly consistent broad smooth heart shape with a small stem and minimal core 8-16 oz in my garden.
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Very pretty fruit! Love the shape and color too... awesome.

Which one is earliest, KarenO? Just thinking of our stupidly short season.
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Midnight sun by a few days maybe. Around ? 72 DTM
Latest is tundra
Clearly only limited experience and further growouts in different conditions will make it easier to judge.
I call the bi’s and taiga early midseason tundra midseason. Polaris more variable it seems, depending on weather of course as well.
None are late, if that helps nonevare early of course either, not with this size and flavour but certainly early for large hearts.

Clear as mud?
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Old 6 Days Ago   #584
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Clear mud, fine by me, I expect no better!
I know Captain Lucky is a "late" fruit I will probably never grow here. And I really appreciate that you've pulled those genetics into an earlier package - not even to mention, such a diverse and pretty package!
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Congratulations Karen! These look wonderful!
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