2014 Professional Soil Test Results...YIKES

[Hermitian]

Originally Posted by drew51

And I use them, but brown rot is much like the Honey Badger, it doesn't care!

I would guess in your environment it "owns" the forest.

[greenthumbomaha]

Originally Posted by drew51

And I use them, but brown rot is much like the Honey Badger, it doesn't care!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg
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That was hilarious . Finally something worth watching on Youtube. Hello Academy Awards ...

And thank you, Richard, for the info. My dd plum tree produced for the first time last summer but succumbed to brown rot. It was the best year ever for the peach trees and I didn't spray.. go figure

- Lisa

[drew51]

Some peaches are better against brown rot. But some I like are not like Indian Free. Oh well, if I get a few I'm happy! Actually right now a canker formed on my Indian Free. Man, I just can't win. How did these trees not become extinct? I removed the canker, but I see another trouble area. I have this tree on Citation. I'm going to try Lovell next time. I want this cultivar, and will work to try and keep one alive.

Yeah that honey badger is bitten by a cobra, starts to eat it, passes out, wakes up and resumes eating. Much like brown rot when sprayed for!

[greenthumbomaha]

Is Lovell hard to get? The orchard manager at a local nursery has been placing commercial orders with a large well known internet fruit tree seller and his order got cancelled. He was ticked. 20 years and 300 trees.From his seller only commercial orders get to choose. Where are you buying from?

- Lisa

[drew51]

Originally Posted by greenthumbomaha

Is Lovell hard to get? The orchard manager at a local nursery has been placing commercial orders with a large well known internet fruit tree seller and his order got cancelled. He was ticked. 20 years and 300 trees.From his seller only commercial orders get to choose. Where are you buying from?

- Lisa

Well Raintree has Indan Free on Lovell
http://www.raintreenursery.com/home.php

I originally got it from Bay Laurel, but they can only deliver in early March, so you may have to heal in trees a few weeks before planting. Not ideal for sure.
A great selection of Dave Wilson Trees though
http://www.baylaurelnursery.com/


One of the cheapest for peach trees, but again March delivery is Fruittreefarm.
Get peaches on Guardian here, you have to ask for it. Guardian ia another top rate root stock.
Citation is a good rootstock, I have other trees on it. Not sure I would get another peach on it though. Plums are cool on citation.
http://fruittreefarm.com/



Some fantastic tree nurseries with smaller, but good selections. Will deliver at better times for us. As will Raintree too btw.
http://www.grandpasorchard.com/
http://www.acnursery.com/acn_about.php
https://www.arboreumco.com/


Many other excellent nurseries out there too.
One of my favorites is
http://ediblelandscaping.com/index.php

and

https://www.onegreenworld.com/


For fruit bushes I have a bunch I really like too. Nourse Farms, Indiana Berry, Berriesunlimited Honeyberriesusa, many many top rate nurseries out there.
I have a list for hard to find and unusual fruits too. Rare herbs also.

[greenthumbomaha]

I need to do some prep in what was a row of tomatoes. It was tilled and slightly amended from being new construction compacted clay. The tilling process and digging left the row slightly below the grade of the plot. I need to buy soil or compost and let it settle over the winter so it dosen't sink around the trees. We have one more week until everything freezes over.

Sadly, last week my garden partner has other obligations and is not able to continue, so I will be somewhat more my own short of two rows he may still use. Hence the conversion of at least one 50 foot tomato row to orchard. I'm thinking a raised bed in my partners former space. I'll post pics when I figure out taptalk

-Lisa

[drew51]

I keep my trees at 8 feet tall. Backyard Orchard culture is the way to go. Google backyard orchard culture for more info. I have a small yard so I fit what I can into it.

[greenthumbomaha]

Nice yard ! I've seen pics of your beds but not from that angle. I look at that Dave Wilson technique and shudder lol. You're braver than I am to try close planting. I guess I'm too stuck in my ways to plant 4 trees in one hole. You never know though. I'll start a new thread when the photo issue is resolved. My yard is long and skinny, yours is more rectangular. In the meantime, thanks for all the links. Peaches are my favorite, a throwback from my childhood at the beach. I still remember the day when I biked down the road with my training wheels and the knarly peach tree was suddenly missing. Darn the Boos' thought it was ugly but quickly concocted another reason before the tears started to flow.

-Lisa

[drew51]

Lisa,

I started growing peaches from the childhood memories of the two peach trees in our yard when I was young. They were great! We moved when I was 12 to a fruitless yard. Part of BYOC is to do what works for you. Mine are 8 feet apart. Really not that close. I have since planted black currant plants between the trees. They were free, I couldn't resist. Actually only cuttings and they may not grow. If not I plan to take cuttings from my red currants I have around the yard.
I think the 4 in one hole is too much too. Although from friends I have seen photos and it looks really cool. If I did that, I could add a lot more trees. it makes me think it is more a selling point. But you know how many fruits do you need from one tree? Maybe 2 in one hole at three foot spacing would be OK. The idea to have trees that ripen at different times to supply fresh fruit all summer is an excellent idea. I have early, mid and late season cultivars myself.