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View Poll Results: Which is best?
Flamme 1 1.92%
Sun Gold 28 53.85%
Reisentraube 2 3.85%
Blondkopfchen 0 0%
Pink Bumblebee 2 3.85%
Orange Bumblebee 4 7.69%
Purple Bumblebee 1 1.92%
Brown Berry 0 0%
Black Cherry 19 36.54%
Tomme Toe 3 5.77%
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Old December 16, 2019   #16
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I voted SunGold, but SunOrange is an improved SunGold. Slightly larger, doesn't split, and earlier. Definitely worth the extra $.

If they were on the list, I buy anything Tokita (maker of SunGold).

SunChocola - for a brown
SunCherry - for a red

Not Tokita, but:
Nectar is right up there too as is Cherry Bomb
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Old December 16, 2019   #17
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I've only grown four of those. I still grow Sungold, but would slap Reisentraube seeds out of someone's hand before they touched the starting mix!
What do you dislike about Reisentraube?

I'm surprised no one has chosen Flamme yet, i thought it was very similar to Sun Gold?
I first read about it in Amy Goldman's Heirloom Tomato book and she said it is her favourite tomato.
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Old December 16, 2019   #18
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I was excited when I found Reisentraube seeds in a big package of tomato, pepper, bean and pea seeds from Tormato's bean swap a few years back. I knew the name from Carolyn's book. It grew these huge, flowing trusses which was neat, but I thought the taste was bland to yuck. A lot of the fruit was undersized. There were also a lot of misses on the pollination, more like a full size tomato than a cherry. That year, in addition to Reisentraube, I grew Pink BB, Black Cherry, White Cherry, Sungold, Sunsugar, and Super Sweet 100. It was a rather tough tomato year, but the others were better, and the hybrid cherries are production machines.

Just my experience from one season. No one liked Reisentraube enough to give it a second go around. The last couple seasons it was strictly Sungold and Sunsugar, and will likely stay that way.
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Old December 17, 2019   #19
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Galinas Yellow is another classic great cherry. And don't forget Karma Pink.
I think the Bumblebees are different depending on your climate. Some people have great results with them, I think the PBB needs lots of sun.
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Old December 17, 2019   #20
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Hmm. I'll be the stinker and grow 2 dozen cherries every year as always. Flip the coin and grow
whatever. I have so much seed. Variety, no mater the season...some do better than others...
Cherries fill my bowl. All season happiness.

RemyRouge is my bowl standard first grow strange but so good in my grow like ketchup strong. Perfect fresh pizza topping.

Often don't give hoot who is who in cherries. I just like the daily harvest. The variety.
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Old December 17, 2019   #21
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I agree, a nice bowl of mixed cherries are a good snack or part of a meal.
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Old December 17, 2019   #22
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I'd suggest Josefina for a red cherry and my Ambrosia lines. (I'm biased there, of course!) The bumblebees are good for market growing because of the thicker skins. I enjoy the spicy sweetness of green cherry tomatoes as well - like Green Doctors Frosted and Green Honey.
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Old December 17, 2019   #23
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I voted for Black Cherry as it is consistently flavourful in my garden. I only tried Sun Gold one year and the smell of the foliage actually made me feel ill so I had to pull it out. I could not stand that smell in the garden and was unable to harvest much of the fruit because of the foliage smell. I, too, like Galina's for a yellow cherry type.
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I'd suggest Josefina for a red cherry and my Ambrosia lines. (I'm biased there, of course!) The bumblebees are good for market growing because of the thicker skins. I enjoy the spicy sweetness of green cherry tomatoes as well - like Green Doctors Frosted and Green Honey.
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Ambrosia Gold? Did you develop those?
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Old December 17, 2019   #25
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from the list, i have only grown sungold, and jaunt flamme if the latter is the same as flamme. galinas was good until it started raining. they split worse than sungold.

other cherries i have grown that i like are green doctors, maglia rosa, my wife really liked. i also like what i call redfield cherry that came to me as redfield beauty out of craigs garden one year when he was doing his old seed offers. color is a deep pink. at its best the flavor is sweet with a tangy finish. taste is a bit inconsistent from plant to plant, not sure if it is not quite stable or environmental. no idea where i am at generation wise.
i haven't been keeping close track. i am debating offering seeds for next year, so others may try it.



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Galinas Yellow is another classic great cherry. And don't forget Karma Pink.
I think the Bumblebees are different depending on your climate. Some people have great results with them, I think the PBB needs lots of sun.


Mst cherries in my garden are lusy.


I once trailed Galina's Yellow. It was insipid, and the only cherry I've ever trialed that had a hard core. Hopefully the unexpected Japanese "white" Cherry that showed up this year will have the same amazing flavor next year.

Sugar, lemon, and vanilla is the best way that I can describe the taste.
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That is a different sounding taste to a tomato, what is the variety name, Tormato?
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That is a different sounding taste to a tomato, what is the variety name, Tormato?

There's no name yet, as it's not a variety. It was supposed to be Japanese Pink Cherry, but it wasn't. So, one guess is that it may be an unstable natural cross from last years saved seed, that I received in a trade. The trader reported they also had a white cherry. We can't confirm that we both got the same cherry, though.



As for it getting a name, if the great flavor can be saved and stabilized, the ones who hopefully will name it, a grandma and her 5 year old gardener-of-the-future grand daughter, don't know that they're getting seeds.
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Old December 19, 2019   #29
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Tokita has 2 other orange cherries, both of which are newer, and imho, `better' than SunGold F1. They are SunOrange F1 and Golden Cherry F1. I am not suggesting there are any issues with SunGold F1 since it is a fabulous tomato, just that the professionals at Tokita have taken their breeding to a higher level.

SunOrange F1:
"From the Sun Series breeder comes an exciting new improvement of the much loved Sungold. This high yielding cherry tomato was more crack resistant and larger in size."

Golden Cherry:
"Flavour winner. This 1/2oz hybrid is without a doubt our best, sweetest tasting cherry tomato. Our trials staff won’t stop raving about this one! Golden Cherry is an indeterminate variety with a very thin skin which is resistant to cracking."
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Old December 19, 2019   #30
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Unfortunate that Black Opal has not caught on in the manner I think it deserves. Imho, it is a superior tomato to Black Cherry - breeder page. I managed to get my BO seeds from Casey's, but I see he has discontinued it in 2020. It has the texture of a grape.

From the breeder:
"Bred from the popular heritage variety 'Black Cherry', 'Black Opal' has an improved growth habit, firmer texture and much better flavour. The large, complex trusses bear an impressively heavy crop."

However, I will add that SunChocola F1 from Tokita is better than both of them. :-)
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