Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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May 6, 2018 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
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Cherokee purple, Cherokee chocolate, Cherokee green
What's everyone's favorite part of these Cherokee varieties... my favorite is Cherokee green cause it came out as a stabilized mutation of Cherokee chocolate which that tomato came out as a stable mutation from Cherokee purple. As i understand that these tomatoes are prolific yielders and have great flavor and taste. I was told that the flavor rivals brandywine.. if that's true or not. For me it's a undisputed theory that's gonna continue between these tomatoes and brandywine. But I still love the Cherokee purple and other tomatoes that have been made by genetic variation of the tomatoes.
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May 6, 2018 | #2 | |
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http://tatianastomatobase.com/w/inde...ty_List&from=C I think by now I've grown almost all the variations of CP,some genetic,yes, some the result of cross pollination that then had to be grown out to make selections and stabilize them. There are many green when ripe varieties,I love GWR's but for me Cherokee Green is still one of the best. Flavor rivals Brandywine, the original pink Sudduth/Quisenberry one.? Nope, not for me but you might consider the following which turned out to be a version of Cherokee Purple. http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Indian_Stripe Hope the above helps and of course just my opinion. Carolyn
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May 6, 2018 | #3 |
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I've only grown Cherokee Purple and Cherokee Green (from your list) . CP is not my favorite. I think the first year my sister had them skewed my opinion of them. She was growing them at the community garden and the person with the plot next to hers had a timer set up to flood the garden every day, and it would flood hers too. The tomatoes were bland. I was going to grow them this year in my back yard garden, but my rabbit got out of his fence and ate it.
I grew Cherokee Green last year for the first time, and it was exceptional. |
May 7, 2018 | #4 |
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I love CG too. The only green to rival it is Spears Tennessee Green, in my own view.
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May 7, 2018 | #5 |
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May 7, 2018 | #6 |
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He's a pet, I can't shoot him. I did catch him with a net and put him back in his yard, so he's mad at me now.
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May 7, 2018 | #7 |
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I haven't tried the Green since I have favorite greens, but the Cherokee Purple gets space in both my gardens. You didn't ask about it but Cherokee Carbon is another favorite. It's a stable hybrid of of CP and Carbon and is prolific and tasty.
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May 7, 2018 | #8 |
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Of all cherokees I prefer Cherokee lime Stripes. They are the most flavorfull of them in my opinion.
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May 8, 2018 | #9 | |
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They eat everything vegetative they find... hopefully your tomatoes will stay safe in the future. |
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May 12, 2018 | #10 | |
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May 12, 2018 | #11 |
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I love the taste of Cherokee Purple, but Margaret Curtain is more productive so I'm growing her this season.
I tasted Cherokee Lime at Marsha's in January . YUMMY!!!!! Linda |
July 11, 2018 | #12 |
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I had always grown store bought hybrids. One day I was at a community garden and a friend there gave me 3 tomatoes that changed the game for me completely. One was Cherokee purple, one was Dr. Wyche's Yellow and one was an oxheart (un named). CP will always be my favorite tomato.
Carolyn, you said above that Indian Stripe 'turned out to be a version of CP'. How was that discovered? I love that tomato too and grew it based on your recommendation from somewhere else on Tville (great tomato so thanks!). Just curious if that was an anecdotal discovery (the original source recalled it maybe?) or whether there have been some sort of genetic tests on these things? I often wonder how many 'newly discovered' tomatoes are just an existing variety that someone 'forgot' which package they got it from. ;-) Thanks; Sometimes-cynical Pete
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July 11, 2018 | #13 | |
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http://www.tomatoville.com/search.php?searchid=2975365 And if it doesn't perhaps I can try to clarify. Carolyn
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July 11, 2018 | #14 |
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Indian Stripe was a tomato that I found growing in the garden of a friend of my in-laws. His name was Clyde Burson. He and my in laws lived in South Central Arkansas. I sent the seeds to Dr. Carolyn, who grew it out and it was determined that Indian Stripe is a sport of Cherokee Purple. That is the Cliffs Notes version of what happened. The Trail of Tears did go through Arkansas.
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July 11, 2018 | #15 |
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Thanks Carolyn and Donna. On re-reading my previous post it does appear that I am questioning the origins of this particular tomato which was not my intention. I was interested in whether there was some sort of dna type test for generally checking the origins of new species. My apologies if I offended anyone. On a side note when I moved to PEI I made new friends one of whom is a 70ish gent that loves gardening like I do. He had never heard of dark tomatoes so when I started mine I gave him one of the starts for Indian Stripe. He was so thrilled about that tomato when it finally ripened that it was great to hear him rave about it. I had a hard time convincing him to try any others. He did eventually try different ones but Indian Stripe is still his hands-down favorite!
Thanks, Pete
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