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Old June 11, 2018   #1
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Default Early, Sweet Micros?

Planning for next year... I've grown lots of micro-dwarfs, but few that I've tried are both early and sweet. I think I've found the premier large almost-micro -- Linda (Ukraine), but it tastes like a regular slicing tomato. Great for salads and a real treat after a winter of grocery toms. So I want something for my sweet tooth.


Maybe the sweetest I've grown is fully-ripe Rejina Red, but not especially early for me. Vilma is pretty good -- fairly sweet, medium early, and a pretty large cherry. Red Robin is pretty early, fairly large, but not so sweet (I think Vilma is a better choice for these characteristics). The "tumblers" can be large and sweet, but not particularly early. So I'm still looking!



Any you would recommend? Anything from Dan Follett's developing lines that fits this description?


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I'd usually recommend Red Robin for those criteria but if it doesn't fit the bill... hmmm...

Bajaja and Red Profusion aren't true micros but they are extremely compact and I consider them sweet.
Sweet N' Neat Scarlet Improved is compact and sweet (the original red Sweet N' Neat isn't nearly as sweet).
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I would say Mohamed is early and sweet (grown in right conditions that is). The seeds came from Tania, no idea if it is still available and where.
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I would say Mohamed is early and sweet (grown in right conditions that is). The seeds came from Tania, no idea if it is still available and where.
Taste is so subjective I grew Mohamed last year and found it too sharp, but my mother loved it!
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I also grew it last year.



http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...hlight=mohamed



Have not tried Bajaja in the past.
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I'm growing a micro called Jochalos that's reportedly sweet and early; first breaker appeared two days ago, so I should know how it tastes soon. The plants are tiny and adorable...
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I also grew it last year.

http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...hlight=mohamed

Have not tried Bajaja in the past.
Ooh, you're a fellow fan of Tumbling Tom Jnr Yellow. Some of the nicest fried tomatoes I've ever had
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I'm growing a micro called Jochalos that's reportedly sweet and early; first breaker appeared two days ago, so I should know how it tastes soon. The plants are tiny and adorable...
I let my grand daughter have the first Jochalos that looked ripe, yesterday. When I asked her opinion she said it was sweet. Gotta wait a bit for the next one I see blushing now. I like sweet myself. This is the first time I have tried growing micro dwarfs.
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I found some hits in Dan's threads below.



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This winter I grew Red Robin, Pinocchio and Yellow Canary.

Yellow Canary were the first to produce fruit and I thought the taste was great. Juicy and sweet! (I still have to taste a really ripe Pinocchio to see if it compares).

I do have to use a stake for RR and YC, just to keep the heavy load of fruit from toppling the pot.

I bought my Y.C. and P. seeds from Bunny Hop seeds.

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http://tomatoville.com/showthread.ph...eet#post621674


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• From plant #2, everything was between 10 and 12 on the Brix scale – also very strong flavor – delicious – almost too sweet for a tomato.
http://tomatoville.com/showthread.ph...eet#post688710



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Not really a micro but is a very compact dwarf: Maglia Rosa. Really delicious if sweetness is what you crave.
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Thanks for the post/links from Dan's thread. Those sound interesting, especially if they are early.
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I didn't find Yellow Canary sweet, but YMMV.
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Dan's micro might be worth pursuing even if it's not early just because of the brix! His micro's are early generation so finding a early variation may not be that hard to do other than growing a few generations out.


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I can eliminate one for you: Hardin's Miniature. Great, early, but not sweet.


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Planning for next year... I've grown lots of micro-dwarfs, but few that I've tried are both early and sweet. I think I've found the premier large almost-micro -- Linda (Ukraine), but it tastes like a regular slicing tomato. Great for salads and a real treat after a winter of grocery toms. So I want something for my sweet tooth.


Maybe the sweetest I've grown is fully-ripe Rejina Red, but not especially early for me. Vilma is pretty good -- fairly sweet, medium early, and a pretty large cherry. Red Robin is pretty early, fairly large, but not so sweet (I think Vilma is a better choice for these characteristics). The "tumblers" can be large and sweet, but not particularly early. So I'm still looking!



Any you would recommend? Anything from Dan Follett's developing lines that fits this description?


-GG
Like Al mentioned in his post, I did find one that was sweet unlike anything I have ever tried. The Brix level on everything I tried from that plant was over 10, with most over 11. I have at least 20 F6s from that plant growing. At least half have ripened fruit and none have had a Brix over 6. They all have very good flavor to my taste, but nothing like their mama. I have two clones I started from cuttings off that plant that are just setting fruit. I also have a fair amount of F6 seed, so I'll keep trying.

That plant and one other - an F2 from the 13X line - are the two sweetest tomatoes I have ever tasted. I haven't found a duplicate of that one either...... yet.

I'd be happy to send you seed that I think has potential, but nothing I can give you any promises for.

Maybe by fall that will be different.....
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