Dwarf Project

cottonpicker · September 23, 2007

I would be interested in reading a comparison of Dwarf Champion, Dwarf Champion #15, & Dwarf Champion Improved.... three varieties offered by the Victory Seed Co.

Thanks,
LarryD

**nctomatoman** · September 23, 2007

Hey there! I've actually not grown any of them myself, but would be surprised if there was very much different between the three of them...My suspicion is that they were selections of the original Dwarf Champion - probably various seed companies found a plant that had some distinctly improved characteristics and amended the name....seed companies often offered slightly modified named "selections" to get an advantage on their competition - but in testing by growing them out, little if any difference was noted.

If you email Mike at Victory, I am sure he will share his experiences with each of them!

**mdvpc** · September 23, 2007

I have grown all 3 side by side-not too much difference. I am not where I can get my hands on my notes right now, but I will and will post.

cottonpicker · September 24, 2007

Thanks for the replies, fellows... I expected they would be very similar. I'm considering trying Dwarf Champion next season. edited on Sept.24 to read: "thinking of growing NEW BIG DWARF " after reading Feldon's note.

LD

feldon30 · September 24, 2007

What nobody has said here is that of the existing dwarfs only New Big Dwarf is known for flavor. Have you considered getting into the Dwarf Project to grow some promising varieties for the team?

cottonpicker · September 24, 2007

feldon..... WOULD join the Dwarf Project but,after selling our single home & moving to a condo with limited garden space I'm not able to grow as much as I would like anymore. Thanks for asking!
LarryD

**mdvpc** · September 24, 2007

Larry-I will post on the three of them. There are also other dwarves that are real good. Like New Big Dwarf (Victory sells it also). Also mano, sometimes called mano rugose. I grew it last year and really liked it. I think there are photos at TV that I posted. Also mini-red cherry that Jenifer sent me. I have seed for the last two that I fermented from the greenhouse last winter, so the chance of crossed seed is much reduced. PM me if you want seed. There are lots of good dwarves for you. They dont taste like Brandywine, but each person's situation is different.

**mdvpc** · September 24, 2007

Larry-Of the 3, Dwarf Champion 15 was my favorite. I wrote in my notes-"good, will regrow." I haven't yet because I am growing new dwarves this fall, but I will grow all 3 again, with 15 being the first.

cottonpicker · September 24, 2007

Michael.... you've got PM.

LD

September 23, 2007	#2
nctomatoman Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hendersonville, NC zone 7 Posts: 10,385	Hey there! I've actually not grown any of them myself, but would be surprised if there was very much different between the three of them...My suspicion is that they were selections of the original Dwarf Champion - probably various seed companies found a plant that had some distinctly improved characteristics and amended the name....seed companies often offered slightly modified named "selections" to get an advantage on their competition - but in testing by growing them out, little if any difference was noted. If you email Mike at Victory, I am sure he will share his experiences with each of them! __________________ Craig

September 23, 2007	#3
mdvpc Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 4,386	I have grown all 3 side by side-not too much difference. I am not where I can get my hands on my notes right now, but I will and will post. __________________ Michael

September 24, 2007	#4
cottonpicker Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SE PA..near Valley Forge Posts: 839	Thanks for the replies, fellows... I expected they would be very similar. I'm considering trying Dwarf Champion next season. edited on Sept.24 to read: "thinking of growing NEW BIG DWARF " after reading Feldon's note. LD __________________ "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause". Victor Hugo Last edited by cottonpicker; September 24, 2007 at 04:38 PM.

September 24, 2007	#5
feldon30 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 5,346	What nobody has said here is that of the existing dwarfs only New Big Dwarf is known for flavor. Have you considered getting into the Dwarf Project to grow some promising varieties for the team? __________________ [SIZE="3"]I've relaunched my gardening website -- [B]TheUnconventionalTomato.com[/B][/SIZE] * [I][SIZE="1"]*I'm not allowed to post weblinks so you'll have to copy-paste it manually.[/SIZE][/I]

September 24, 2007	#6
cottonpicker Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SE PA..near Valley Forge Posts: 839	feldon..... WOULD join the Dwarf Project but,after selling our single home & moving to a condo with limited garden space I'm not able to grow as much as I would like anymore. Thanks for asking! LarryD __________________ "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause". Victor Hugo

September 23, 2007	#1
cottonpicker Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SE PA..near Valley Forge Posts: 839	Dwarf Project I would be interested in reading a comparison of Dwarf Champion, Dwarf Champion #15, & Dwarf Champion Improved.... three varieties offered by the Victory Seed Co. Thanks, LarryD __________________ "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause". Victor Hugo

September 24, 2007	#9
cottonpicker Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SE PA..near Valley Forge Posts: 839	Michael.... you've got PM. LD __________________ "Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause". Victor Hugo