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Old February 5, 2018   #1
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Default The right tray is......?

This is the primary GH used to start my tomatos and peppers. I would like to know what size trays will fit. Can I fit 2 trays per shelf?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0735CJ54R...&pd_rd_w=1KSqk
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This is the primary GH used to start my tomatos and peppers. I would like to know what size trays will fit. Can I fit 2 trays per shelf?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0735CJ54R...&pd_rd_w=1KSqk
Please secure the heck out of that thing with cable ties on each shelf corner and put heavy items only on the bottom!!!

I have that shelving too, but I have upgraded to several inexpensive garage style plastic storage racks that have holes for stringing lights, and a splurge on a metal rack with slotted shelves sold at Sam's Club, etc. It is amazing and only $50 when on sale.

I used and still use regular 10X20 with a 5X20 that is now hard to find. The other tray I will be using as a replacement for the half size tray is a trough that you use to dip wallpaper. They are super cheap too.


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I secure my plastic trays in a perma nest tray makes life lovely with no bowing when pulling out tray to admire or water.

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Yes, 2 trays fit per shelf but like mentioned those wire shelves will slip and you'll drop trays, ask me how I know!!! I used zipties.
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Looks like the same Aldis greenhouses I use.two 420 trays liners of various cells per shelf.Reinforce the rods with good self tap machine screws.Line with that green plastic coated chicken wire fencing,put it on a inexpensive furniture dolly and in and out the sun/garage porch,360 for those delicates,the shade cloth with the green house a plus,bottom watered trays,easy peasy my wife she says.Be careful pulling on these versions if not reinforced,THEY WILL PULL APART AT THE WRONG TIME,NOTABLY WHEN FULL OF WEIGHT,AND WHEN IT IS A DOWNPOUR,TRUST ME ,IT HAPPENED TO I.
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THis will be my second GH. These are NOT durable. THe metal shelving would be secured if I use this GH.

I am rethinking money might be better spent on a 4 tiered workshop shelving.

THank you all for input as to tray size.

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Please secure the heck out of that thing with cable ties on each shelf corner and put heavy items only on the bottom!!!

I have that shelving too, but I have upgraded to several inexpensive garage style plastic storage racks that have holes for stringing lights, and a splurge on a metal rack with slotted shelves sold at Sam's Club, etc. It is amazing and only $50 when on sale.

I used and still use regular 10X20 with a 5X20 that is now hard to find. The other tray I will be using as a replacement for the half size tray is a trough that you use to dip wallpaper. They are super cheap too.


- Lisa

I secure my plastic trays in a perma nest tray makes life lovely with no bowing when pulling out tray to admire or water.
Lisa, do mean this is a 3 layer affair. two trays that fit tog perfectly, then filled with dividers , either 6 packs or a tray with many depressions to hold soil and 1-2 seeds......

Sorry still learning the lingo and online pics can be confusing.
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Another option. I have several of these, though I haven't used them for plants yet; mostly I use them for home canning and garage storage. They are super sturdy and stable!

https://www.amazon.com/Seville-Class...=Seville+14x30
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wow the 4 tiered storage unit linked above looks very nice, and can handle 300 lbs per shelf. Makes the original GH look so very flimsy in comparison.


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These are sold at the big box stores too, but I have gotten them for $37-$38 on Amazon when on sale.
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Lisa, do mean this is a 3 layer affair. two trays that fit tog perfectly, then filled with dividers , either 6 packs or a tray with many depressions to hold soil and 1-2 seeds......

Sorry still learning the lingo and online pics can be confusing.
Let's use rg's right tray in photo above as an example.

They tray itself measures 10 inches by 20 inches.
Within the tray he has 6 inserts, and in this particular situation each insert has compartments for 6 plants.

I used to be able to purchase trays that were half the size width wise, that being 5 inches wide and still 20 inches long. More flexibility when maneuvering seedlings with different growth rates under the light.

I also have inserts that have 9 compartments, 4 compartments ,and inserts that have no compartments and look like a mini loaf plant for dense planting of one variety. I can mix and match these inserts within a tray. I rinse and reuse everything.

If you run out or run short, in a pinch you can use disposable supermarket items like pie pans , lasagna pans as trays and strawberry clamshells or yogurt cups with a hole for starting seeds. Eventually you will want to get more uniform equipment but these items still work fine.

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Old February 6, 2018   #11
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32 sq pots 2x2x2

https://www.amazon.com/Germination-P...l%2Btrays&th=1



60 plug ct 1 5/8" Square X 2 6/8" Deep
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B011JEBKYA...20cell%20trays


10 Plant Growing Trays (No Drain Holes) - 20" x 10"
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0058PTK6M...20cell%20trays

1020 Trays - Extra Strength No Holes, 10 pack
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BKOG6PM...20cell%20trays


100 Pack of 2 Inch pots for Starting seedlings 2" square Durable Reusable Plastic Starter
https://www.amazon.com/Starting-seed...J65RSAVNVEWNT8

KINGLAKE 100 Pcs 4" Plastic Plants Nursery Pot/
https://www.amazon.com/KINGLAKE-Plas...J65RSAVNVEWNT8



100 Qty -Dura pots 3 1/2" square x 3" deep Durable and reusable yet -Lightweight & flexible for easy de-potting
https://www.amazon.com/Durable-reusa...J65RSAVNVEWNT8


Ideas.
288 plug is too small. Looking for similar to start seeds. Then transplant into garden or up pot.

individual pots. One size for selling, therefore 3 x 3 ish, to sell one plant at a time; more popular than 6 pk or 4 pk trays,
High quality is fine for me for reuse; hate loosing these to customers that will trash them.

Larger pot for up potting, trade pots the largest and perhaps a smaller one midsize that are larger than 3 x 3



PLEASE COMMENT on the randomly selected vendors above, the sizing, or other issues I am totally ignorant about. THtanks.

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I use two of those mini green houses to harden off my plants for a week or two before they get planted out. They will work fine as long as you learn how to work with them!

Tie them down well (secure a rope on the ground at one side, run it up over the second or third shelf, then back down the other side). Otherwise on the first windy day your plants will be strewn all over the ground.

If I remember correctly, they will not fit two 1020 trays per shelf. I use foil casserole pans I buy in bulk at Costco as I can fit them on the shelves better than the 1020 trays.

And if you wait too long to unzip and roll up the front flap on a sunny day, you'll cook your seedlings.

And if I pack them up after everything is planted out, I can easily get three to four years out of a plastic cover. If left out all summer, the sun destroys the cover in just one season.
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Good to know the GH will last 3-4 season and not just the one , If packed up and put away from sunlight.

I had forgotten how easily this GH blows over. I prefer to set it up in a bathroom that gets warmth from wood stove and a window to provide some of the lighting.

IN the past, draping 3 sides with glossy parchement paper bounces the light around more. And which of the light heads back out the window. Not sure what the net gain is given growlights are also in use as the winter sun is weak ( and a north window). Considering a white shade to pull at sundown. WOuld be interesting to see if better growth by keeping shade down 24/7.....




Im tracking down resources to better organize my seedlings. Initially tomatos but also other veg. In the past when planting out seed I struggle to know where seed is, and the weeds seema lways a step ahead.

My plan is to start almost everything, letting the seedlings be 1-2-3 inches tall , then transplant into the garden. Hopefullly puts me ahead of the weeds when I can clearly see what is a weed and what is not.
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https://www.harrisseeds.com/collecti...nt=28920995985
quality Dillen propagation trays and domes are perfect for starting all types of flower and vegetable seed. Use along with our heat mats and light stands for seed starting success. Cell size measures 1" x 1" x 1-1/2" deep.

https://www.harrisseeds.com/collecti...nt=38829397073
These heavy duty, semi-rigid Blackmore 128 deep cell plug trays allow you to easily separate species in one tray, reducing potential disease spread, and easing transplanting. The plug trays measure 11"x 21 1/4" and easily fit into our 1020 no drainage trays, web trays, and permanest trays (lip of plug trays rest on top of other trays so that cells are in the trays. Depending on cell size, the bottom of the cells may not touch bottom of tray.) Use along with our heat mats and light stands for seed starting success. Cell size measures 2" deep and 1 1/8" wide.
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wow the 4 tiered storage unit linked above looks very nice, and can handle 300 lbs per shelf. Makes the original GH look so very flimsy in comparison.


https://www.amazon.com/Seville-Class...=Seville+14x30
I see these every day at work in cafeteria storage rooms, in freezers and coolers with all sorts of heavy meats and such on them.
Plus any number of other places I haunt.
They can hold up to just about anything you put on them.
In my opinion there is no better option at any price.

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