A garden is only as good as the ground that it's planted in. Discussion forum for the many ways to improve the soil where we plant our gardens.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Elgin, Illinois
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I would like to know how I should start out. I live in Northern Illinois where the weather gets cold from November till the end of March.
I have started collecting corn cobs after my cousins harvest. There is also a large volume of maple leaves at the farm. I heard that redworms like these leaves. Next my cousin has two horses and lots of manure. Can I use old pig manure or leave this alone. So I need some advice on where to start my compost pile. I want to start a worm bin compost pile out side. I have an old pig pen that has a cracked concrete area is this a good place to start or should I put the compost pile in part of my garden. What will happen to the redworms when the cold weather hits. Should I start it now making up the pile and add worms or sholud I grow the worms inside and start outside next year. In need of some experienced members advice. Last edited by hardwaterbob; October 22, 2010 at 05:13 PM. |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Fairfax, VA Z7
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Elgin, Illinois
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Sorry I don't understand how this helps me.
Bob |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Fairfax, VA Z7
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The reason for the link was that a fellow TV er was using a bin inside his powder room down stairs and found it helpful to have it inside so that kitchen scrapes i.e. greens and other vegies that would go to the garbage disposal could be fed to the worms along with damp cardboard scrapes, newspapers ect.
One thing that I got from this link was there was a benefit in having the bins indoors since harsh winters might make it difficult to continue feeding the worms if left outside. The belief that there would be odors did not occur so long as the worms were not over fed. I was hoping someone with Vermicomposting experience would join in with 1st hand experience. Just wanted to get the ball rolling...... George |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Portland, OR
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Having your bin outside during freezing cold winters will kill the worms. Keep them inside or at least in your garage or basement. They thrive in 60-70 degree temps but will live in colder or warmer conditions.
Start with a small bed of leaves, a handful of dirt and cover with several inches of damp shredded newspaper. Feed kitchen scraps by burying them under the paper. Basically, just lift up a corner handful of newspaper and throw the scraps under in and then put the paper back over it. Soon you will start to see the worm castings. I LOVE my worms! |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Elgin, Illinois
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Thanks for your help. I have a small batch of worms inside that I will move outside when the temps get higher. The worms will then be placed in my garden.
Happy New year Bob |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Den of Drunken Fools
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First off if you put the worms in your garden and there is no food for them they will leave.
Vermicomposting is a method to get the compost thew worms make. I would find this rather hard to do if you let the worms run wild. Here are several links to vermicomposting you will find helpful. http://lancaster.unl.edu/pest/resour...mpost107.shtml http://aces.nmsu.edu/pubs/_h/h-164.pdf http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...Jszpow&cad=rja Worth |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Dallas
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Good links, thanks Worth. Always wondered why nightcrawlers weren't good for bins.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Ontario, Canada
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We have been worming farming for about 3 years and the results do a real number on the garden, also useful for making Compost tea as well.
We use an indoor bin, made from plastic tote bins 'a la Earthtainers'. It's kept in the basement and we feed our kitchen scraps during the winter. No smells or problems. Early spring we harvest the worms and add them to an outdoor bin for the summer. We refer to it as the 'Summer Camp for Worms'. In there we place unfinished compost, fill it with shredded leaves, then we feed them the kitchen scraps. Makes a ton of finished compost and worm casts, ideal for adding to potting soils, or even just spread on the garden. |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Iowa Zone 5
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Like Beeman I also have an indoor bin, as my garage would be too cold. Garages are far too cold in Northern Illinois also.
I have a purchased 360 bin. I also harvest the worms in late May and add them to an outdoor compost bin for the summer so they can help out there. Over the winter the population should have tripled or more so unless you’re planning further bins you have to do something with the over population anyway. A couple of mistakes newbie worm raisers make is not raising eisenia fetida or Red Wigglers. They are far more efficient than a night crawler, there is no comparison. Bedding is bedding and food is food. Food is at the top, so make sure they have to travel for food. Most people have a shredder anymore, but bedding should not contain shredded magazine, advertisements or any shiny paper. Most credit card applications are on office paper which is fine. And grit. Some wormers don’t know about or use grit. I found it’s important. Any washed tiny sand should be sprinkled over the food for digestibility. I happen to use hobby sand, but any salt free washed small grit is acceptable.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: PNW
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[grit]
Greensand works for this if you have some around (more diverse mineral content than many other sources of grit).
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