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Old 3 Weeks Ago   #31
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Barb, DUH forgot to attach - sorry!
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Old 3 Weeks Ago   #32
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Barb, the F1 and the F2 plants were actually small for a determinate and very productive. I do not have any seeds left and would only have the F3(this yrs. saved seeds). I have pm'd you

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Old 2 Weeks Ago   #33
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This is my first year growing tomatoes, after much research. I’m in southwest Pinellas county, zone 10a, rarely get frost. I have one Cherokee Purple, purchased as seedling while waiting for my seeds to be ready, in a fabric 15 gal bag, and about 2-3 feet tall. I also planted a couple more Cherokee purples, Dwarf Wild Fred, Dwarf Emerald Giant, and Dwarf Rosella Purple that I transplanted last weekend.

Almost forgot, I also have several Sungold and Chocolate Sprinkles that are ready to pot up, hopefully ready to plant in 2-4 weeks.

I am very interested in trying Cream Sausage also. Is it too late to order seed and start for this fall/winter? I’m not clear if tomatoes can carry through the winter here, or if the eventually fade out from bearing, or with disease even if there is no frost.

I so appreciate the advice I’ve already received here.

This sure can get addictive quickly!!

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Old 2 Weeks Ago   #34
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If it is a true hybrid, then the tomatoes should not be the same but you never know. I've read here that sometimes the F2s are almost identical but then the F3s start to really vary a lot more and usually not for the better. Since your F2s were good, just continue growing those out rather than chance it with F3s.. (unless you have a lot of space). If you don't have F2s, I will save some seeds for you before your season starts again.

Now that I now that the F2s were good, I'd be more likely to grow them out from a determinate than indeterminate. (jmo - but I feel like I have less invested in the determinate tomato plant).

Once I saved seeds from Garden Treasure (the U of Florida tomato released the same time as GardenGem) and the F2s were better. Saved a bunch of F3s and never grew them out or the F2s again either.

Patrick, (pmcgrady) use to grow out the F2 seeds from Burpee's Orange Slice. He gave the seeds to a bunch of us. I grew the F2s seeds out and they were really good, productive, etc. Saved a bunch of F3s but didn't ever grow them out.
I grew out the F3's, they were much like a BW type, so I did not pursue them
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Rdil111 - there is still plenty of time. I will sow up to March 1 although the later the less tomatoes before the heat sets in. Plants from late August / Sept can make it through May. Our season is so long, I sow minimal expensive seed first and just start cloning from them.


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I grew out the F3's, they were much like a BW type, so I did not pursue them
Really? So they were good then. BW don't like the humidity here; I really only tried one year. It was year after I thought I was a great tomato grower and read that BW were the best so I grew mainly BW and not much else. I ended up with lot of beautiful huge BW plants and no tomatoes. I never tried again.

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Rdil111 - there is still plenty of time. I will sow up to March 1 although the later the less tomatoes before the heat sets in. Plants from late August / Sept can make it through May. Our season is so long, I sow minimal expensive seed first and just start cloning from them.


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I spotted the first flower forming on a tomato last night -- on one of the Jochalos micros. I knew they were to be early, but it's impressive to see one blossoming and still in a 10 oz cup and as small as they are. I've got to get those planted out ASAP.

The bf and I took a few days off work this past week to have time to do household projects together, and during that time I finished, filled, and set up the nearly full-depth homemade olla inside the 55-gallon barrel we made into a garden tower. I transplanted some potted herbs, seedlings, and direct-sowed with a smattering of things. Trying my first small test ring of carrots in the top to see if it's still too hot to germinate. I also got some more peppers and tomatoes planted out into grow bags. We planted out all seven of the pineapple plants we'd started from tops, to join his two or three, in a whole pineapple-and-aloe corner we've now got mulched in. Sadly, one of the big things we were going to do is get a truckload of mushroom compost from a place in Zellwood, and that didn't happen because apparently the two of us aren't able to get the heavy cap off the back of his pickup ourselves. That's going to go a long way to helping build up the very sandy loose soil especially where the neighbor dog can so easily dig under the fence and leave a big hole. When we get that mixed in I want to plant some rye grass to help bulk it up, and I have designs on a row of sunflowers along that fence line which the squirrels will be happy about.

Put some more seeds in the ground last Sunday, with some salad greens up already. I'm determined to start my next round of tomatoes, ones I didn't make room for in the early batch. Next up are Dwarf Red Heart, Shamrock (a yellow-green), Coastal Orange Pride, Banksia Queen (yellow) and a promising red salad, Chinese Tea.

Floridians, is it worth it to try to start any cucurbits now, or am I too late/too early? I have a couple of zucchini types and some cucumber seeds. I had terrible luck with that family of vining veggie in my old place, in the ground. I definitely want to try harder and smarter. I still have pole beans to put in. The bush beans, of which I only did three of each type as a test drive in the hot weather, are producing a smattering of beans in tight quarters that look ready to pick, but hardly enough for a serving. The burgundy ones look so pretty, it's a shame the color cooks out.
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Finally! Got my remaining late August starts planted out. Since it's my first time with dwarfs, I wasn't all that sure of container size. I had some 7-gal Root Pouch grow bags, some 5-gal, and some leftover containers, both terra-cotta and synthetic. I planted out more than I thought I was going to (never did get around to finding people who wanted to adopt some), so I'm doing a little experimenting with pot size and productivity, if all other things are equal.

I hung up my sticky strips, and am catching mostly small black insects. I don't see much damage at all to the toms yet, it looks like the basil is taking the brunt of the leaf damage with the aphid/ant situation not abetting. I definitely want to get something to try to cut down the ant population by sprinkling on the ant hills. I continue to neem oil spray once a week but may have to go more frequently.

We have an area in the back (near where the yellow-jackets were, but they definitely seem lesser, don't know whether it's the cooler weather or whether we managed to pull out their hollow-limb home?) that is mostly just bare sand and weeds coming up. Since that's where we plan on putting two of our avocado trees, for now I covered with newspaper and cardboard, after apreading the slim remains of our homemade compost, weighted with some blocks and covered with pine needle mulch (so it doesn't look just like tacky cardboard.) I'm hoping that brings some life to the soil there even before we get our truckload of compost, as well as putting the weeds down. Oof, the back feels it today!

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