Tomatoville® Gardening Forums


Notices

Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old March 6, 2016   #1
Kazedwards
Tomatovillian™
 
Kazedwards's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 368
Default Grow lights?

What kind of grow lights does everyone use? I have a single light that is 3-4' long. It does ok but this year I have more plants than light. I was thinking that I would get a shop light at lowes/Home Depot. I just need to know what kind of bulbs. I was thinking T12. What do you guys use?
__________________
-Zach
Kazedwards is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 6, 2016   #2
Worth1
Tomatovillian™
 
Worth1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Den of Drunken Fools
Posts: 38,539
Default

If you are starting from scratch and want to use tube lights go with T5 or at least T8 lights at 6500K bright daylight.
I use a big bank of CFL lights but it is a project on its own most people aren't willing to tackle.
Worth
Worth1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 6, 2016   #3
luigiwu
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: ny
Posts: 1,219
Default

Depends on what you're trying to grow. If only seedlings until they go out, I do really well with just T8s - 4 bulbs on each 18-inch deep restaurant style wire shelving. I'm starting now and they go out mid may at the latest. All from home depot and using Alto Daylight Deluxe bulbs, cheap and works great.
__________________
Subirrigated Container gardening (RGGS) in NY, Zone 7!
luigiwu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 6, 2016   #4
Kazedwards
Tomatovillian™
 
Kazedwards's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 368
Default

Yes I am wanting to do tube lights. Just something to get me from March to May. From the sounds of it T5 or T8 are the way to go. I wonder were I heard T12 from.
__________________
-Zach
Kazedwards is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 6, 2016   #5
Worth1
Tomatovillian™
 
Worth1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Den of Drunken Fools
Posts: 38,539
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazedwards View Post
Yes I am wanting to do tube lights. Just something to get me from March to May. From the sounds of it T5 or T8 are the way to go. I wonder were I heard T12 from.
That is the old lights they had and still carry.
The T5 and T8 are better.
The number at the end stand for 8th's of and inch in diameter of the tube.
T5 5/8ths T8 8/8ths or 1 inch T12 12 8ths or 1 1/2 inch.

Worth
Worth1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 6, 2016   #6
4season
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: albuquerque
Posts: 308
Default

As my T12 units go bad they are replaced with T8 ones. Somehow I always felt the T12 tubes were fragile, but the narrower T8 tubes don't bother me. Higher Kelvin lamps with more output seem to be more common too.
4season is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 6, 2016   #7
BackyardFarm
Tomatovillian™
 
BackyardFarm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Wisconsin, zone 4b
Posts: 360
Default

I use shop lights. T8s are the way to go for an inexpensive setup.
BackyardFarm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 6, 2016   #8
FredB
Tomatovillian™
 
FredB's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Carmel, IN
Posts: 76
Default

If you want to cover more than 3 or 4 square feet, you should get a metal halide light. A 400W metal halide light fixture that will cover a 5' x 5' area costs about $200. Google "metal halide grow light" to find suppliers.
FredB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 6, 2016   #9
bower
Tomatovillian™
 
bower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Posts: 6,793
Default

I got my fixtures just when they were switching from T12 to the better ballasts for T8 - but the new ballasts will take either 12's or 8's bulb. I was trying out some different colours and bought a couple of T12 bulbs by mistake and it is noticeable, they don't give as much light as the T8. Also wore out quicker - one of the two was toast in a year. All my T8 bulbs are still working.

The new ballasts use less energy than the old T12 ones, and of course, you can't use T8 bulbs in a T12 fixture, so eventually you would end up not finding bulbs. So I was cautioned by one honest salesman, not to get a T12 fixture by mistake.

The T5's are even brighter, but they are more expensive, and so is the fixture. Not compatible with T8 or 12.
bower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 6, 2016   #10
Spike2
Tomatovillian™
 
Spike2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 992
Default

My very first grow light was a set up actually sold as a "grow light" system. I also have a 4 foot shop light and a 2 foot shop light with the grow bulbs.
Spike2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 6, 2016   #11
JaxRmrJmr
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Jax, FL - 9A
Posts: 172
Default

Here's what I use. (4) T5 bulbs included, you can use the outside 2 bulbs or the inside 2 independently - or all 4 at once. They can be daisy-chained together. The fact that the bulbs are included is what sold me.

10,000 lumens at 6,500. They also sell 4 foot ones.

link
JaxRmrJmr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 6, 2016   #12
Father'sDaughter
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MA/NH Border
Posts: 4,917
Default

I use 4ft T8 shop lights with 6500K bright daylight bulbs for seedlings. Trick is to keep the lights as close to the plants as possible. T12s are, for the most part, being phased out, and I didn't want to spend the money on T5s if I didn't need to.
Father'sDaughter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 6, 2016   #13
Cole_Robbie
Tomatovillian™
 
Cole_Robbie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Illinois, zone 6
Posts: 8,407
Default

Here's my thread about building a cheap light:
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=35099

I'm actually using a 1000 watt metal halide right now, mostly for the heat it puts off, to warm up the room and sprout seeds. After transplant to six-packs, the plants go out into the greenhouse.
Cole_Robbie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7, 2016   #14
Gardeneer
Tomatovillian™
 
Gardeneer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: NC - zone 8a - heat zone 7
Posts: 4,909
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Father'sDaughter View Post
I use 4ft T8 shop lights with 6500K bright daylight bulbs for seedlings. Trick is to keep the lights as close to the plants as possible. T12s are, for the most part, being phased out, and I didn't want to spend the money on T5s if I didn't need to.

This is my 3rd season using T8 x 48" on double tube fixture. I have 3 of them. Right now I am using just one unit for about 30 small seedlings.
When I pot up, the I'll put the second into operation.
I paid about $13 for each fixture and about 7 buck for two bulbs with 6500 K (~ 22 bucks per complete unit) . I am using daylight and daylight deluxe. Each tube consumes 34 watts. All I had to do was put the tubes/bulbs in ... PLUG IT IN !!

Gardeneer
Gardeneer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 7, 2016   #15
beachykeen
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Claremore, OK
Posts: 10
Default

This is my first year growing under lights (I used to buy all my tomato plants). Like many others here, I am using the T-8 48" lights. I have double units on 3 shelves (total of 12 bulbs) on a 5 shelf unit. I enclosed the sides of my shelving with cheap mylar emergency blankets, and use foil roasting pans to contain my plant cups. I also keep an oscillating fan going in the room. Plants are gorgeous, and I am going to start hardening off this week.

Mary
beachykeen is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:20 AM.


★ Tomatoville® is a registered trademark of Commerce Holdings, LLC ★ All Content ©2022 Commerce Holdings, LLC ★