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Old August 4, 2017   #61
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Default Blue Berries Tomato ...what the Buzz is about

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All this talk of anthro stuff ...

I went out and got a Blue berries tomato seedling to see what all the

buzz was about ,,,,,,,

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fish pepper are pretty. variegated foliage and multicolor fruit. hot little devils too.
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fish pepper are pretty. variegated foliage and multicolor fruit. hot little devils too.
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I'll have to look at them again ....I tried them once long ago

and it was a fail ......but now I have overwintered

quiet a few peppers ....(shrubs now ) some 3 years ...It works great ..If you can manage it . I think I would like to try fish peppers again ...with the ornamental
edible ....what a great tip .

I say again ...I find Black Hungarian pepper quite ornamental as it has the purple fruit and blossoms etc. It goes well with an ornamental tomato collection .
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Default Lutescent Blossoms pix

Lutescent blossoms ...still interesting cultivare.. White etc.
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Default Bonte Tigrette and Fuzzy Wuzzy PIX

Bonte Tigrette and Fuzzy Wuzzy both have the striped oblong fruit

Bonte Tigrette has the Chartreuse foliage and Fuzzy wuzzy the "angora" foliage.

very ornamental when they get going.
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Old August 10, 2017   #66
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Lutescent blossoms ...still interesting cultivare.. White etc.
It's not the blossoms that are of interest IMO,they can range from white to pale yellow,same as for one other variety I know,rather,it's the fruits that are interesting in terms of color since they ripen up in a precise color sequence and end up red.

The foliage should be a sickly looking yellow as well.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Lutescent

Yes I know this one very well, but Tania doesn't show any pictures of a plant with all the different colored fruits on it at the same time.

Yes,a real oddity,and I'm not the only one who thinks that the fully red ripes are best left on the vine as in RIP.

It's one of the varieties like Stick,you have to grow it at least once.

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It's not the blossoms that are of interest IMO,they can range from white to pale yellow,same as for one other variety I know,rather,it's the fruits that are interesting in terms of color since they ripen up in a precise color sequence and end up red.

The foliage should be a sickly looking yellow as well.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Lutescent

Yes I know this one very well, but Tania doesn't show any pictures of a plant with all the different colored fruits on it at the same time.

Yes,a real oddity,and I'm not the only one who thinks that the fully red ripes are best left on the vine as in RIP.

It's one of the varieties like Stick,you have to grow it at least once.

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I guess I will have to grow it at least once .....you never know what

surprises these odd one may have ...

Multi coloured fruit sequence TBA later ...


I like stick and it seems to be more interesting every year for me ..
I am finding some different ways to accommodate its unique expression

for culture.
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'..but now I have overwintered

quiet a few peppers ....(shrubs now ) some 3 years ...It works great ..If you can manage it'

How did you do that?
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'..but now I have overwintered

quiet a few peppers ....(shrubs now ) some 3 years ...It works great ..If you can manage it'

How did you do that?
Still exploring ....

Pick ones that have a notable "cool weather " factor

and grow them the healthiest ones are the best candidates to survive .

Super chili (I have a bush in 7 gallon container) Sloveno Uno, Jimmy nardello,

Hungarian Black , Hungarian Hot wax, various hybrid habenero etc. .

Check tatianas for the early Siberian ones etc.

Anyway use the ones that work for you not what the book says ..


I over winter in a garage building with cut back moisture and a grow light to support the tropical foliage .... (Can go cool but never freezing )



Getting them to January 1st is not the problem (Christmas peppers etc. )

but survival till April in cool garage is the challenge ...so treat them nice .

They may even drop leaves(try not to stress them this much) and just be a "green stick " but they are still alive and will comeback bigger and faster in the next grow season with new foliage.

In New sping season consider "up potting them " to facilitate bigger 2nd year plant.
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This is a GREAT thread, BlackBear. I've enjoyed the reading and I find Lutescent really unique- I read all of the old literature on it too. I think I will try it once- after all, I grew a 12 foot tall Stick this year, so anything is possible
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This is a GREAT thread, BlackBear. I've enjoyed the reading and I find Lutescent really unique- I read all of the old literature on it too. I think I will try it once- after all, I grew a 12 foot tall Stick this year, so anything is possible

Stick is interesting ......It doesn't have to be a total "stick " either you can get it to break of into separate branches .... but all with the same "crinkle leaves" either way ... it is interesting...
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How about if there was a variety ...that did not have ...striking

foliage per say .....BUT....the blossoms were very distinct or different

and worthy of honorable aesthetic mention ????

are there such candidates out there for consideration ?
YES! Joseph Lofthouse's 'Neandermato' and the other crosses he is working on..











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Most interesting ......

configuration of blossom ...



how do the blossoms ..load up with Fruit ?

Does it present as an early or cool weather variety ?
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Most interesting ......

configuration of blossom ...



how do the blossoms ..load up with Fruit ?

Does it present as an early or cool weather variety ?
I don't know for sure, but i think they load up with small cherry sized fruits. It is probably a late season species, im not sure. You'll have to ask Joseph directly to know. I will quote him here so that he may respond. I know the neandermato is the combination of three accessions in one. I know he originally started working with it from his frost tolerant tomato project. I think it can survive mild snow. Dont know about his hybrids though.


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Some of the plants from the panamorous flowering project are in bloom. Here's what a couple of them looked like today. I'm loving the huge flowers and bold floral displays. I'm attempting manual pollenations on most days.
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BlackBear: They are small cherry tomatoes.

Every variety of tomato that I grow gets selected for earliness and cold weather tolerance. It's the nature of my climate.

Would look great in a flower garden.


Foliage of the inter-species hybrids is really wild, with many variations.







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