Tomatoville® Gardening Forums


Notices

Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old September 15, 2018   #1
TomatoDon
Tomatovillian™
 
TomatoDon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: MS
Posts: 1,521
Default Big Daddy and Dixie Red

Big Daddy and Dixie Red are two varieties that I've read about this year, and the Amish near me grew out some Dixie Red seedlings but I never saw any mature and producing plants. I've read that Big Daddy is an improved version of Big-Bigger Boy.

I'd like to get feedback here from those of you who grew them this season. Do I understand correctly that both are determinate and don't get over about 48" tall, and once they start producing, they produce in a flurry and then in about a month it's over and they die back?

And is that the habit of the bush varieties also, such as Bush Goliath, etc?

Thanks in advance.
DS
__________________
Zone 7B, N. MS
TomatoDon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 16, 2018   #2
Goodloe
Tomatovillian™
 
Goodloe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Steens, MS 8a
Posts: 410
Default

Hey Don,

I've also been looking at these two for next year. Looks like I've developed a nematode infestation this past year, so I've been looking for resistant varieties.

It appears that only the Dixie Red is nematode resistant, and it is a determinate variety. I was excited about Big Daddy, but as it's not nematode resistant, I'll have to pass.

Here's what I found on both:

https://www.burpee.com/vegetables/to...rod002743.html

http://www.tomatogrowers.com/DIXIE-R...ductinfo/5695/

Hope this helps,
Jon
__________________


~Jon~ Downheah, Mississippi
Goodloe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 16, 2018   #3
Goodloe
Tomatovillian™
 
Goodloe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Steens, MS 8a
Posts: 410
Default

Hey again, Don,
I also found this video on youtube. This guy is impressed with Big Daddy, and states that it is a determinate variety. The Burpee website lists it as "indeterminate", so I'm not sure...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7IHZ365E9w

Jon
__________________


~Jon~ Downheah, Mississippi
Goodloe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 16, 2018   #4
carolyn137
Moderator Emeritus
 
carolyn137's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a
Posts: 21,169
Default

I guess I'd never heard of them since both are F1 Hybrids and I grew/grow few hybrids since I prefer mostly the heirloom kinds with hopefully a great history.

But more and more folks are breeding their own now,both so called amateurs, and well known commercial tomato breeders as well,so that's good as well.And some are using heirloom varieties as part of the parentage also.

Here's a couple of Google links for these varieties,I guess for me since I wanted to learn more,but there may be info there that will answer questions not asked about before.


https://www.google.com/search?q=Dixi...&bih=815&dpr=1

https://www.google.com/search?q=Big+...&bih=815&dpr=1

Carolyn
__________________
Carolyn
carolyn137 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 17, 2018   #5
TomatoDon
Tomatovillian™
 
TomatoDon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: MS
Posts: 1,521
Default

I was interested them for a short while until I realized both were determinate and only produced a short while. I read many of the articles in Carolyn's links and I don't see any reason to plant them now. Similar existing indeterminates should do much better, especially in my area.
__________________
Zone 7B, N. MS
TomatoDon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 19, 2018   #6
Greatgardens
Tomatovillian™
 
Greatgardens's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,124
Default

If you are interested in Big Daddy, why don't you contact Burpee's customer service and ask them? I would bet it is Ind since it has been out several years, and if there was that type of error in their description, it likely would have been corrected by now. Did you read the reviews of it? There are 157 reviews shown, with an ave. of 3.8. Steak Sandwich hybrid is another good red that I've grown.
Greatgardens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 19, 2018   #7
Goodloe
Tomatovillian™
 
Goodloe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Steens, MS 8a
Posts: 410
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greatgardens View Post
If you are interested in Big Daddy, why don't you contact Burpee's customer service and ask them? I would bet it is Ind since it has been out several years, and if there was that type of error in their description, it likely would have been corrected by now. Did you read the reviews of it? There are 157 reviews shown, with an ave. of 3.8. Steak Sandwich hybrid is another good red that I've grown.
I'm looking for hybrids that are nematode resistant. I can find NO info on the disease resistance of the Steak Sandwich variety. Any suggestions?
__________________


~Jon~ Downheah, Mississippi
Goodloe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 19, 2018   #8
carolyn137
Moderator Emeritus
 
carolyn137's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a
Posts: 21,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodloe View Post
I'm looking for hybrids that are nematode resistant. I can find NO info on the disease resistance of the Steak Sandwich variety. Any suggestions?
Yes,my suggestion is to Google it for an answer.Which I just did and most of the links I brought up were way out of date but most had no references to tolerance,no such thing as resistance) to anything.

This one came the closest by saying watch out for this and that,but nothing to do with nematodes

https://bonnieplants.com/product/steak-sandwich-tomato/

You garden in MS or Missouri,I can't remember which and there's an issue with nematode breaking strains in the south,and here's that link

https://www.google.com/search?q=Nema...&bih=815&dpr=1

This was also discussed at Tville several times but it was easier for me to Google right now rather than do a search at TV.

Hope this helps,

Carolyn
__________________
Carolyn
carolyn137 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 19, 2018   #9
Greatgardens
Tomatovillian™
 
Greatgardens's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,124
Default

Burpee does not typically put specific disease information in the descriptions of their products. We don't have a nematode issue in my area, so I don't know. But I really doubt it. The only thing I could suggest is to contact them. They are very good about responding.
Greatgardens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 19, 2018   #10
carolyn137
Moderator Emeritus
 
carolyn137's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a
Posts: 21,169
Default

I just came across a very long thread already here at Tville about RKN's,aka Root Knot Nematodes.I have no time to read it but I hope you can do it.

http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=46900

Carolyn
__________________
Carolyn
carolyn137 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 19, 2018   #11
TomatoDon
Tomatovillian™
 
TomatoDon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: MS
Posts: 1,521
Default

I know what the internet and google says about them. I was interested to see if anyone here had first hand experience and knowledge.
__________________
Zone 7B, N. MS

Last edited by TomatoDon; September 20, 2018 at 12:12 AM.
TomatoDon is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:47 PM.


★ Tomatoville® is a registered trademark of Commerce Holdings, LLC ★ All Content ©2022 Commerce Holdings, LLC ★