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Old March 27, 2017   #16
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They either poisoned or cut all of the really old ones down.
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They either poisoned or cut all of the really old ones down.
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The top half of this tree was missing, the guy said it was taken out in a storm. But the lower limbs were enormous and the roots on top of the ground were the diameter of very large trees. I wish I would have taken a few pics.
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The top half of this tree was missing, the guy said it was taken out in a storm. But the lower limbs were enormous and the roots on top of the ground were the diameter of very large trees. I wish I would have taken a few pics.
At one time I Lived east of you close to Mountain Grove.
All of the barns and houses were made of oak and these big old trees were everywhere.
Sometime in the 60's they started spraying the timber to kill all of the trees for pasture land.
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We have one in Texas that is estimated to be 1000 to 2000 years old.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...HsNG5zoerCoUbQ
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We have one in Texas that is estimated to be 1000 to 2000 years old.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...HsNG5zoerCoUbQ
That is an awesome tree. The one I saw locally looked very much like that except the
top half was missing.
When my folks retired back in the 70's they bought a beautiful little 10 acre farm about an hour south of here and it had an old massive oak. My 2 brothers and I decided to see if we could reach around it. We put our chests on the trunk and stretched our arms out and touched finger tips and we came up about 20" short. My brothers were 6'6" and 6'5" and I am 6'. The shade canopy from that tree covered close to an acre.
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I went Saturday morning and filled up 2 large totes of rabbit droppings. I tried to give the guy some $ to buy some rabbit food but he would take it.
While there I saw this huge old tree and commented on what a cool tree it was and he said it had been studied by the state and it was declared the oldest White Oak in the state of Missouri and estimated to be 300 years old. Very cool stuff IMO.
Good score on the poo! I tilled most of it into my clay on Sunday, along with some peat moss and garden soil. The whole back yard smells like a rabbit coop, and my Yorkie has found his new favorite snack....
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Good score on the poo! I tilled most of it into my clay on Sunday, along with some peat moss and garden soil. The whole back yard smells like a rabbit coop, and my Yorkie has found his new favorite snack....
Lol, doggie vitamins?
I think I may have found a local source as he said to call when I wanted more. I didn't count but it looked like at least 25 rabbits.
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Chickens and rabbits are all you need for fertilizer.
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Chickens and rabbits are all you need for fertilizer.
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I don't doubt that at all. I remember as a child my grandpa had a good sized garden and am pretty sure he used several types of manure as fertilizer. And I remember he also raised meat rabbits for butcher and he also had a bunch of chickens for meat, eggs and no doubt manure. But he also was an avid hunter and fisherman, not so much as a hobby, but to supply food. He was born in 1888 and he took me with him otter squirrel hunting and fishing. I remember these times very fondly.
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Well looks like we are getting rabbits the 15th of April. Picked up a free hutch yesterday. Going to be nice to have poo on site
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The caribou and birds fertilize the tundra every year.
The vast herds of Bison and flocks of birds did the same thing in the lower 48.
It wasn't until the 20th century that we even used man made chemical fertilizer.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to notice plants are greener around animal dung.
I saw it on the tundra all of the time.


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Well looks like we are getting rabbits the 15th of April. Picked up a free hutch yesterday. Going to be nice to have poo on site
And nice to know what's in it! Great idea..
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Im inspired...found rabbit poo for $5/trash can picking it up tomorrow!!
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I might get some rabbits for food pets and manure.
I hate picking chickens so it would have to be laying hens.
The last place I lived had rabbit ear mites and there was no way I was going to try it there.
The ear mites are the number one problem you will have and needs to be taken care of.

Some good old sulfur on the ground and around the cages helps a bunch.
Mites hate sulfur.
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picked up 2x 32 gal trash cans of rabbit poo today! I was a bit surprised, it looks like 1/2 straw (bedding) and 1/2 poo.

I added about 1" or so on one of my tomato rows and worked it in; we'll see how it goes. Sure is a lot more work then a sack of tomato tone...
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