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Old August 14, 2017   #1
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Default Vintage Canadian OP tomatoes

I am increasingly interested in exploring older and less well known tomatoes bred in Canada. The heyday if you will was back in the 50's and 60's and I am wondering who else might be interested?
This year I grew out 2 plants of Starfire improved, a vintage variety from the 60's developed at the Morden agricultural research station in Manitoba. Bred for the Canadian prairies, I was Pleasantly surprised by it's taste, health and productivity. and although determinate, it remains healthy in a cruddy small pot in my PNW garden still. Next year It gets a spot in the real garden because it was actually pretty great.
I will save seed and I would be interested in trades of other Canadian-bred tomatoes, particularly more obscure ones.
I also have a couple of others but very limited seed.
Time to start a collection

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Starfire improved.
RL large determinate 70 days this year in bad conditions and a poor location. I would guess a week earlier at least in full sun in a garden bed.
A brilliant Scarlet red slightly lobed flattened oblate fruits about 4 oz
Plants are very productive and from my limited experience with them disease free.
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Karen,thanks for thanking me for the other sources for Canadian bred varieties,especially those from Quebec, but maybe some of those might want to know the place in Quebec that I directed you to,in terms of trades,etc.

http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...versity+Canada

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The way I see it the more the merrier in terms of others helping out if interested.

Also the ones that can be found at Sandhill Preservation where Raymond Tratt from Quebec sent many varieties to Glenn since Raymond was like you,he didn't want those varieties to disappear and that's why I referred him to Glenn.

Carolyn, who is trying very hard to remember one she grew that had a gold stripe that was in the middle of each petal.I do hope I can remember that one, I know it had something to do with the High Crimson gene which was also used in breeding others from Quebec.

Heck, why not Google high crimson and see what I come up with and this is that

https://www.google.com/search?q=High...&bih=788&dpr=1
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Starfire improved.
RL large determinate 70 days this year in bad conditions and a poor location. I would guess a week earlier at least in full sun in a garden bed.
A brilliant Scarlet red slightly lobed flattened oblate fruits about 4 oz
Plants are very productive and from my limited experience with them disease free.
Very NICE !

That's what Mine looked like in Saskatchewan ....LOL

but I had a not so impressive show in Campbell River in a cool year ...
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Very NICE !

That's what Mine looked like in Saskatchewan ....LOL

but I had a not so impressive show in Campbell River in a cool year ...
did they get diseased? I realize it has been abnormally hot this year here
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did they get diseased? I realize it has been abnormally hot this year here
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No disease ....just not as productive on the cool (year) coast as the prairies

nice foliage .low to ground ...a few medium /large tomatoes......on the prairies

no problem ...LOTS of fruit ...(the problem was the first frost date of Sept. 5th )

I am interested to collect Canadian Vintage : Cold Set , and Morden Yellow .

I have Basket Vee cued up for next year.

I have been pleased with Canadian vintage : Kimberly, Sophie's Choice, Beaverlodge, Manitoba , Arctic Plenty , Johnny Jump Up , Russian Saskatchewan ... to name a few ....
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The Prairie Garden Seeds site has a chart of Canadian-bred tomatoes organized by province

https://prseeds.ca/wp-content/upload...-Chart-Red.pdf
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The Prairie Garden Seeds site has a chart of Canadian-bred tomatoes organized by province

https://prseeds.ca/wp-content/upload...-Chart-Red.pdf
Thank you very much. I need to go through my collection carefully, I have quite a few I think.
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Early Lethbridge
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Vendor "was developed as part of a program to develop quality greenhouse tomatoes at the Ontario/AES/ Simcoe, 1950's, sturdy staking type, clusters of red, globe shaped 3" fruit are closely spaced along vine. VENDOR VF, Henry Munger/Cornell AES bred disease resistance into this Canadian tomato about 30 years later so that it could tolerate soil culture outdoors"

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Early Lethbridge
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Vendor "was developed as part of a program to develop quality greenhouse tomatoes at the Ontario/AES/ Simcoe, 1950's, sturdy staking type, clusters of red, globe shaped 3" fruit are closely spaced along vine. VENDOR VF, Henry Munger/Cornell AES bred disease resistance into this Canadian tomato about 30 years later so that it could tolerate soil culture outdoors"

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interesting, do you have seed for that Jeff?
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I'll be watching this thread...

Testing Scotia and Cabot this year.
I would like to try a few more next year.
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I'll be watching this thread...

Testing Scotia and Cabot this year.
I would like to try a few more next year.
so How is the scotia going ...????
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so How is the scotia going ...????
Should know more this weekend. Not a great tomato year in the Catskill Mountains.
Last year was the best of the past 15 yrs.
Crazy season as always. Never know how things pan out.
Grapes, fruit trees, summer/winter squash, fantastic. Usually tomatoes do great when
all those do well...
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I was interested in Scotia as some places described it as a semi-determinate

and good for containers etc.
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interesting, do you have seed for that Jeff?
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Hi Karen,
Yes, I will be offering both varieties for sale in the fall.
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