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Old January 28, 2018   #16
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I have reduced the number of peppers I grow and focus mostly on the ones I can use, though I still like to try a few new ones. Last week I started the following Chiles:

San Sebastian (From the Basque region in Spain)
Aji Amarillo
Black Congo
Red Fatali
Yellow Manzano
Chimayo
Brown Rocoto
Aji Benito
Piquillo

Sweet Peppers"

Palancko Cudo
Somborka
L'Orto di Napoli
Belecanto
Beaver Dam
Shepherd Peppers (Seed from peppers grown in Ontario)
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Old January 28, 2018   #17
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Just because fruit color, shape and size "grow true" does not mean that the peppers are OP.

Both parents of a hybrid can have very similar peppers but be different in any number of other traits that may be subtle (eg. disease resistance).

Since I can find over 5 reputable seed sellers that sell them as F1 hybrids, I think it is very likely they are.

Of course it could be a conspiracy between all of these seed companies, but personally, I doubt it.

I know there have been charlatans who have sold OPs as hybrids in the past, but I think many folks now are too quick to assume malfeasance when there is none.
I reckon I learned something today. I never would have thought of peppers growing true, at least in phenotype could still be a hybrid. But it makes sense. I don't have much of any disease pressure on my peppers so I don't know about those aspects. I guess for my purposes I consider them OP, they are consistent from year to year and always delicious.
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Old January 28, 2018   #18
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If they behave similarly to an OP, that is a good thing. Still a good idea to always save seeds from the best plant or plants (depending on how many you grow).

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I reckon I learned something today. I never would have thought of peppers growing true, at least in phenotype could still be a hybrid. But it makes sense. I don't have much of any disease pressure on my peppers so I don't know about those aspects. I guess for my purposes I consider them OP, they are consistent from year to year and always delicious.
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Old January 28, 2018   #19
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Do any of you huge pepper list growers make your own hot sauce? Any tricks or tips should I ever want to try it?

Not a list grower here but learn to ferment them first.
I have some now that have been going for months.
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Old January 29, 2018   #20
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I'm overwintering these, hoping for nice big production this year.
Jalapeno - Craig's Grande
Numex Orange Spice
Numex Trick or Treat
Rocotillo
Santa Fe Grande
Jay's Peach Ghost
Trinidad Moruga Scorpion
7 Pot Yellow
Aji Amarillo Grande
Bahamian Goat
Black Pearl
Caribbean Seasoning (3rd year)
Carolina Reaper
Chapeau de Frade
Chocolate Naga Brain

I've got 30 more I want to try this year:
7 Pot Bubble Gum White
7 Pot Long
7 Pot Primo
7 Pot Primo Yellow
Aleppo
Bleeding Borg 9
Bulgarian Carrot
Corbaci
Cubanelle
Datil St Augustine
Habanero Costa Rica
Habanero de Arbol
Habanero White #2
Habanero White Mini
Jimmy Nardello
Lemon Drop
Big Black Mama
Big Mustard Mama
Big Caramel Mama
Manzano Yellow
Numex Centennial
Numex Easter
Peter Pepper Orange
Pimenta Leopard
Purple UFO
San Pedro Sweet
Sugar Chili
Sweet Banana
Tabasco
Zolotistyi Sweet
Donkey Ears

I don't know if I'll get all those going but they are my wish list. I'm cutting back on tomato varieties this year to make room for these.
If you get them all going that will be a lot of pepper plants. I'm ordering 3 more earth-
boxes to put most of my peppers in. I think I will have 10 or 11 boxes total. Some of
the Jalapeno's will be in raised beds.


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2017 was my first year trying peppers in containers, and they did very well - although to be fair, so did the ones in ground. It was my best pepper year, and yes jmsieglaff, I did make hot sauce. No tips or tricks for you except that it's well worth it to have the homemade stuff - DH and I loved it! I just used an internet recipe and mixed peppers, mostly habs. I'm excited to try again this season.

Like SalsaCharlie I'm cutting the number of tomato plants, but not number of varieties. We have two new beds but added potatoes, sweet potatoes, more peppers, and a ton of beans... I'm really excited about those, too.

Here's my pepper list - provided they germinate! I still had trouble with that last year.

Aji Amarillo
Aji Brazilian Starfish
Aji Escabeche
Ajvarski
Alma
Anaheim
Ancho 101
Arroz con Pollo
Banana, hot
Banana, sweet
Caloro
Chilhuacle Rojo
Congo Trinidad
Corno di Toro, red
Cosa Arrugada
Cowhorn
Cubanelle
Datil Sweet
De Bresse
Doe Hill
Dolce de Espagna
Espelette
Fehrer Onzon
Frank's
Fresno
Friariello
Fushimi
Garden Salsa
Golden Treasure
Guernica
Habanada
Habanero
Habanero, chocolate
Habanero, pink
Himo Togarashi
Hot Portugal
Inca Red Drop
Jalapeno, Craig's Grande
Jalapeno, Early
Kaboutermutzen
Leutschauer
Manganji
New-Mex Big Jim
New-Mex Heritage 6-4
New-Mex Jalmundo
New-Mex Joe E Parker
New-Mex Twilight
Ophelia
Oranzhovoye Chudo
Ozark Giant
Pasilla Bajio
Peppadew
Peppadew, S.A.S.
Pepperoncini
Poblano
Round of Hungary
Serrano Huasteca
Serrano Tampiqueno
Shi★★★★o
Sweet Pickle
Takamatsume
Tolli's Sweet
West Allis 1/2 Sharp
Wisconsin Lakes
Yatsufusa
Zavory
Zolotoy Dozhd
I like your list, all useable peppers.


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I have reduced the number of peppers I grow and focus mostly on the ones I can use, though I still like to try a few new ones. Last week I started the following Chiles:

San Sebastian (From the Basque region in Spain)
Aji Amarillo
Black Congo
Red Fatali
Yellow Manzano
Chimayo
Brown Rocoto
Aji Benito
Piquillo

Sweet Peppers"

Palancko Cudo
Somborka
L'Orto di Napoli
Belecanto
Beaver Dam
Shepherd Peppers (Seed from peppers grown in Ontario)
San Sebastian, I'll have to look that one up. Looks like everyone has Aji Amarillo on
their list. I wonder if Fred has something to do with this.
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Old January 29, 2018   #21
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I love the Aji Amarillo, I've been growing the baby (2-3" long) Aji Amarillo from the seed Fred made available here a few years back. I find it is a very versatile and delicious pepper. I especially like the fruity, citrus like flavor along with a nice, yet usable amount of heat.

I use them on pizza, in roasted tomatillo salsa, sliced length-wise on sandwiches, in many dishes. I also freeze them whole in a freezer bag and that way I've got them year-round for cooking. One plant produces hundreds of those peppers over the course of a summer.
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Old January 29, 2018   #22
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I think I've sown too much... Anyway, half of them are going to my parents garden. But since they don't like hot peppers I guess the hot ones will grow here.

1. sweet peppers capsicum annuum
Ophelia
Jimmy Nardello
Lipstick
Kaboutermuts
Zolotoy Dozhd
Tolli’s sweet
Ajvarski
Golden treasure
Fehrer Ozon
Quadrato d’asti rosso
Arroz con pollo
Sweet pickle

2. Capsicum chinense
Pink habanero
Biquinho
Biquinho Iracema
Numex suave orange
Datil sweet
Congo trinidad

3. Capsicum baccatum
Peppadew
Peppadew South African strain
Aji Brazilian starfish
Aji escabeche

4. Capsicum annuum mildly hot
Pitelca
Heritage 6-4

5. Capsicum annuum hot
Numex twilight
Fish
Jalapeno purple
Early jalapeno
Rezha Macendonian
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Old January 29, 2018   #23
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The bulk of my mix for market will be my best sweet varieties from last year:
Ajvarski Sweet
Crunch Sweet Orange
Sweetest Pepper
Golden Treasure
Erbil Sweet

I will probably order Sweet Chocolate from Baker Creek
https://www.rareseeds.com/sweet-chocolate/

as well as Candy Cane F1 from Harris:
https://www.harrisseeds.com/collecti...dy-cane-red-f1

Hot peppers are a money-losing crop for me, but I still grow a few plants anyway. I do a lot better selling the plants than the peppers. Last year's winners were:
Fatali
Peach Bhut
Orange Bhut
Spanish Bhut
Devil's Tongue
Big Sun Habanero
White Habanero (I have an unstable White Bullet Hab)

I am also going to order seeds from this guy, who claims to have hotter varieties than Carolina Reaper. I think the plants will sell very easily:
https://www.primospeppers.com/shop

I don't know if anyone would buy the actual peppers, but they would make a nice conversation piece on the market table.
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Old January 29, 2018   #24
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Primo is one of the supremeo of hot pepper developers and growers.
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Old January 29, 2018   #25
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No, I doubt that he would. The seed is from a colleague who visited the area several years ago and brought some dried peppers back. It is very similar to the famed Espelett from the same region. Great for drying and making powders.

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Beautiful list!!



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2017 was my first year trying peppers in containers, and they did very well - although to be fair, so did the ones in ground. It was my best pepper year, and yes jmsieglaff, I did make hot sauce. No tips or tricks for you except that it's well worth it to have the homemade stuff - DH and I loved it! I just used an internet recipe and mixed peppers, mostly habs. I'm excited to try again this season.

Like SalsaCharlie I'm cutting the number of tomato plants, but not number of varieties. We have two new beds but added potatoes, sweet potatoes, more peppers, and a ton of beans... I'm really excited about those, too.

Here's my pepper list - provided they germinate! I still had trouble with that last year.

Aji Amarillo
Aji Brazilian Starfish
Aji Escabeche
Ajvarski
Alma
Anaheim
Ancho 101
Arroz con Pollo
Banana, hot
Banana, sweet
Caloro
Chilhuacle Rojo
Congo Trinidad
Corno di Toro, red
Cosa Arrugada
Cowhorn
Cubanelle
Datil Sweet
De Bresse
Doe Hill
Dolce de Espagna
Espelette
Fehrer Onzon
Frank's
Fresno
Friariello
Fushimi
Garden Salsa
Golden Treasure
Guernica
Habanada
Habanero
Habanero, chocolate
Habanero, pink
Himo Togarashi
Hot Portugal
Inca Red Drop
Jalapeno, Craig's Grande
Jalapeno, Early
Kaboutermutzen
Leutschauer
Manganji
New-Mex Big Jim
New-Mex Heritage 6-4
New-Mex Jalmundo
New-Mex Joe E Parker
New-Mex Twilight
Ophelia
Oranzhovoye Chudo
Ozark Giant
Pasilla Bajio
Peppadew
Peppadew, S.A.S.
Pepperoncini
Poblano
Round of Hungary
Serrano Huasteca
Serrano Tampiqueno
Shi★★★★o
Sweet Pickle
Takamatsume
Tolli's Sweet
West Allis 1/2 Sharp
Wisconsin Lakes
Yatsufusa
Zavory
Zolotoy Dozhd
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I noticed that several people are growing Ajvarski Sweet, which I had never heard of. A quick check showed that the supplier is Baker Creek and the description they give is vague, we know that it is from Macedonia, a region, along with Bulgaria know for some of the best thick skinned roasting peppers.

I have some familiarity with region and was curious as to what this pepper could be. Ajvar refers to the relish made fro roasted peppers and many varieties are used for that purpose. The most popular is Kurtovska Kapija and is identical to Baker Creek's Ajvarski Sweet.

The reason I mention this is that we get so many peppers and tomatoes that are the same but have been re-labeled, not a big deal, but it is nice to know what variety you are actually growing and what it is called.

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Old January 29, 2018   #28
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I'm growing:

Carolina Reaper
7 Pot Primo
Baron (F1) Ancho
Jedi (F1) Jalapeno
Crunch Sweet Orange
Mighty Minis
Carmen (F1)
Ajvarski
Banana (sweet)

Going to try growing a lot of them in buckets/bags this year and use my rows for more profitable crops.
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I like your list, all useable peppers.
That's me, Mrs Practical.
It was difficult to narrow it down. I know at least a few varieties are similar but don't quite trust my germination and production skills enough yet so the list grew. There are enough varieties that we should really be able to expand our pepper horizons even more than last year. If they germinate. ::drumming fingers...::


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Beautiful list!!
Thank you! A lot of repeats from last year and many from the MMMM and trades. If they'll go for me I'll save lots of seeds to share


Alex, Baker Creek was my source for Ajvarski; this will be the 3rd year growing it. I think you're right about all the re-labelling that goes on - even innocent () re-labelling, such as "so-and-so's [name of country] Red", when the variety obviously already had a name from wherever it was from. There must be so many duplicate varieties!
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I'm growing three:

Jimmy Nordello
Elephant Ear
Fresno

My husband is getting to where he can't handle the spicy ones anymore😔
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