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November 1, 2010 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
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2010-2011 Garlic Grow List
Finally a hard freeze thus I did my planting and mulching of garlic over the weekend. I had such a good first year with my garlic, that I have tripled the amount and doubled the number of varieties of last season. Maybe enough for trading next season.
Here are the varieties I have finally in the ground: Chrysalis Purple, DX-127, Georgian Crystal, Georgian Fire, German Hardy, Khabar, Leningrad, Nootka Rose, Red Estonian, Red Toch, Thermadrone, Wildfire(to size up), Martin's Heirloom bulbils(100+,a two year project).
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November 1, 2010 | #2 |
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Growing garlic is addictive, isn't it? I grew a small plot for the first time last year. This year I got a little carried away - planted a total of roughly 600 cloves. Can't wait for next year!
Asian Tempest Brown Saxon Chesnok Red Chinese Purple Estonian Red Georgian Fire Hnat Inchelium Red Japanese Kettle River Giant Killarney Red Kyjev Leningrad Martin’s Heirloom Metechi Montana Carlos Music Nootka Rose Khabar Pyong Vang Red Janice Red Janice Red Toch Shandong Shatili Siberian Sicilian Silverskin Simonetti Slovenian Thai Fire Transylvania Xian Youghiogheny Purple Yugoslavian |
November 1, 2010 | #3 |
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fortyonenorth, that is a nice list and you are correct it has become addicting.
I would be interested to know your results for Kettle River Giant, Slovenian, and Yugoslavian. I have thought maybe adding them to my list next season as "Chrysalis Purple" is on probation for rot this year and one of the softnecks had to many cloves and not sure if it will continue for me. I myself did about 400 cloves and 100+ bulbils. Dean |
November 1, 2010 | #4 |
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I've got mine planted...first year for this. Hear is my list...and yes I imagine that it is addicting.
Lorz Italian Schumacher Nootka Rose Marie's Special Estonian Red Chrysalis Purple Chesnok Red Carpathian Brown Saxon Asian Tempest Wanted to order a few more, but even though I ordered early, they were gone already. I would like to hear feedback from anyone who has grown any of these...as to taste, etc. I realize there have been a few comments on one or two of these already. Thanks Chris |
November 1, 2010 | #5 | |
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Will-do. Have you tried pre-treating your cloves prior to planting? I didn't last year, but based on advice from Karen @ wegrowgarlic, I did an overnight soak in a kelp mixture and then a three minute dunk in either isopropyl or strong vodka just prior to planting. It's said to help with disease - though I don't think there's any scientific evidence.
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November 1, 2010 | #6 | |
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Chesnok Red was one of my best producers last year - along with Killarney Red, Red Toch and Pyong Vang. I'm growing several of the others for the first time this year.
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November 2, 2010 | #7 |
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I went ahead and planted this weekend, close to 300 cloves of the following:
Ajo Rojo Bogatyr Broad Leaf Czech Brown Tempest Burgundy Creole California Early Creole Red Chet's Italian Red Early Red Italian Elephant (leek) Estonian Red Inchelium Red Kettle River Giant Metechi Red Janice Red Toch Siberian Sicilian I do the overnight presoak with seaweed emulsion (one oz Maxicrop / gal of water), but decided to skip the rubbing alcohol dunk this year to save a little time. Instead, Actinovate was also added to the soaking solution. |
November 2, 2010 | #8 |
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I'm cutting back this year...only 11 varieties.
3 'grocery store' softnecks (2 white and 1 purple. ) Rosewood Purple Glazer Klaver Nia~wanda Park (second year of growing out from bulbils; Remy) Amish Red (a locally found variety, originally from PA) Frank's (2nd yr of rehabilitating one that has grown semi wild here for at least 17 yrs) An unlabled one from last year that did very well Spanish Rojo |
November 2, 2010 | #9 |
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Dean the only ones you mention that I have grown are Nootka Rose and Georgian Crystal. I stopped growing Nootka Rose after 2 or 3 years because the cloves were so hard to peel, must be a siliverskin because it sure kept a long time. I stopped growing Georgian Crystal after 2 years because the bulbs were small, didn't keep that long iirc and taste was ok but nothing special. I'm not criticizing you just explaining my views on those 2.
This year I'm growing Music, German Red, German White as usual, they develop huge bulbs with huge cloves so much so I have a hard time pushing the cloves into the hole my dibble makes! New varieties this year are Rosewood, Russian Red, Romanian Red and Metechi. I hope these are ok as the bulbs were bought in August and all the outer wrappers were removed. I thought that was not a good thing but they came from a “good source” and I figured 2 ½ months in storage wouldn't hurt them and that they'd be ok. Well I was wrong! They are all dried out and frankly I was going to throw them all away but I found a few good cloves when I tore the bulbs apart so I planted those few cloves – it's a 90% loss and a waste of $62. I planted 192 cloves and I thought that was a lot until reading this thread. I don't sell garlic maybe some of you do? Normally I plant the 1st week of November around the 5th maybe as late as the 12th but this year I planted them all on Sunday. It was Halloween so I expect the Romanian Red to be especially powerful, look out Dracula! 41 north, that's an impressively huge amount of garlic especially for someone that grew a small plot last year! I'd love to hear how these taste next July! Tom
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November 2, 2010 | #10 |
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Tom - not sure if my 2011 garlic garden is impressively huge or impressively foolish - time will tell
Interesting to hear about the problems with your seed garlic. I had a similar experience. Several varieties from one source were pretty spotty by mid-October. All the garlic I ordered from Filaree Farm (more expensive) was impeccable. My theory is this: Filaree is growing on mineral soil in a dry western climate - this produces somewhat smaller heads, but with better storing qualities. Other seed garlic suppliers are growing in richer soil - producing larger heads (enormous in some cases) but with poorer storage potential. |
November 3, 2010 | #11 |
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Tom - not sure if my 2011 garlic garden is impressively huge or impressively foolish - time will tell
well you sure have a lot to play with! tom
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November 3, 2010 | #12 |
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Thanks for the feedback on those I am growing. I, too, ordered mine from Karen and Mike. Their website is very informative. Everything arrived in excellent shape and on time. Will definitely order from them again!
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