General information and discussion about cultivating beans, peas, peanuts, clover and vetch.
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March 20, 2013 | #16 |
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Folks,
Thanks for the suggestions. As the containers weigh over 130 pounds, it will take several people to tip them over, which seems to be the best option. I don't want to cut the stalks and pull them down through the cage as this would destroy future growth of the vines. Happy problem to have I suppose as Dee said - but I never counted on having to do this to pick the pea pods. Fertilizer used was 1/2 cup Epsom Salts and 2 cups Espoma Plant-tone. They were planted on October 20. Raybo Last edited by rnewste; March 20, 2013 at 01:24 PM. |
March 20, 2013 | #17 |
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Raybo,
For future crops you could rig up a back panel type of framed trellis support that has a couple of forward hinges at about waist level. Use a pulley to keep it upright and let it gently down the minimum needed for picking height. Lot of good that does you now.
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March 20, 2013 | #18 |
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Dee,
Unfortunately, the hinged backplane won't work too well. As when it would be rotated forward, most of the vines would snap off at the rotation point. What I need to design is a giant spring-loaded reverse "mousetrap" which would be mounted underneath the EarthTainer to help counter-balance the mass of the moist grow media as it was rotated roots and all, forward at a 90 degree angle. Latching the spring mechanism would be no small task and would likely take off my arm if tripped accidently! There is an old saying: "You can either raise the Bridge - - - or lower the Water". Along that line of thought, what I need to find for next Season are a variety of Dwarf Sugar Snap Peas which would max out at 6 feet in an EarthTainer environment. Raybo Last edited by rnewste; March 20, 2013 at 06:48 PM. |
March 20, 2013 | #19 |
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Look guys. If you are serious about having to get up there, build a scaffolding. Cinder blocks both sides plank in between. Use the small step ladder to get up to the scaffolding. It's the only safe way.
But I was only 1/2 joking about just leaving the top to dry and become either dried peas for split pea soup or seed next year.
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March 20, 2013 | #20 |
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Raybo,
I have the same problem with snap peas in my two earthtainers. What I've been doing is to climb a step ladder placed next to the earthtainer, and then slowly and carefully pull the vines down toward me to harvest the peas and then release the vine. They snap right back up. You just have to take your time and go slow. Lyn |
March 20, 2013 | #21 |
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Lyn,
Good to hear that its not just me. I've just ordered a 1/2 pound bag of Dwarf Sugar Ann Snap Peas: http://www.gurneys.com/product.asp?p...hopping_engine As the description is that they will grow to 24 inches unsupported, I am expecting them to top out at no more than 6 feet in the EarthTainer. If you are having a difficult time picking yours, you may want to give these a try. Raybo |
March 20, 2013 | #22 |
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Ray,
Unreal! Where is the little boy that was your garden elf last fall? Put him in a rope harness and throw a line over the top of the deck rafter. Tell your wife's church group that if they want tomatoes this year they have to harvest these peas! But seriously, absent a neighbor with a bigger ladder the tip over method seems like the best bet. |
March 21, 2013 | #23 |
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March 21, 2013 | #24 |
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Cinder blocks and wood planks are not safe unless done properly and could spell injury or even death.
Sorry. Everyone needs a 6 foot 8 foot and at least a 10 foot step ladder around the house. Worth |
March 21, 2013 | #25 | |
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Can you do it wrong? Sure. Anything can be done wrong. But it isn't all that hard to do it right either, assuming you have enough cinder blocks and don't try to "stretch" them by stacking them upright instead of flat and interlocking.
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March 21, 2013 | #26 | |
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I also work off of step ladders every day. I climb fixed ladders and run around on cat walks high above turbines. I run bridge cranes with cat walks on them so people can work in the air. While you may have had a few years working to go to school, I my friend have been doing this for around 35 years and still at it. It is what I do for a living. Someone not trained in the proper laying of cinder block can create a death trap and you have to have the proper grade lumber to use as it is. Then there are hand rails and toe boards to think about. People are killed and injured every day from homemade contraptions and walking off roofs. A properly set step ladder at the right height is the way to go. You have to stay in the (green zone), this is where your belt buckle never goes past the side of the ladder. Worth |
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March 21, 2013 | #27 |
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Ray, I think this might be the ticket for you and if you pay in full at time of purchase you get a free paint tray which could be used to collect the peas in. Win Win to me since you can add a plank to it as well to use as scaffolding and you have a wide standing platform.
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March 21, 2013 | #28 | |
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@Rockporter YES! Used those before too, both as a ladder and as scaffolding bases. A pair of those is quite handy for a variety of around the house tasks.
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March 21, 2013 | #29 |
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Thanks all,
I am solving the problem by now planting Dwarf Ann Snap Peas which can be picked at ground level. Raybo |
March 21, 2013 | #30 |
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