Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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April 15, 2013 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
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Tesoro tomato
Hi all,
I came across this variety in a grocery store. It appears to be a Roma type. http://www.tesorotomatoes.com/p/tesoro-story.html "HERITAGE "* Tesoro began in Italy as a seed variety named Intense selected by Nunhems Vegetable Seeds "* Intense Variety won Fruit Logistica’s Innovation Award and the PMA’s Buyer’s Choice Award in 2008 "* The Produce Exchange brought Intense to North America in 2007 and the brand Tesoro was born with our first retail test in 2010. "* Today, Tesoro tomatoes are hot house grown and are available year-round" It appears to be open-pollinated. Has anyone here tried or grown it, under either the Tesoro or Intense name? Thanks. GTG |
April 15, 2013 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
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I just saw it also at the grocery store but have not yet purchased it.
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April 15, 2013 | #3 |
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I just googled it and came across this piece, which identifies it as a "natural hybrid" -- http://www.freshplaza.com/news_detail.asp?id=88057
Would that make it a stable accidental cross? I'm never sure of the terms used to describe these things! |
April 16, 2013 | #4 |
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Don't believe it...
"The vegetable seed business of Bayer CropScience operates under the brand name of Nunhems..." (from their website) |
April 16, 2013 | #5 | |
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April 17, 2013 | #6 |
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Carolyn, I know I don't need to tell you, the term "natural hybrid" has a very specific meaning in biology, and it would be very unlikely to find a great tomato as a result of a natural hybrid in nature.
Perhaps Nunhems is using the term to emphasize that the variety is not GM. Unrelated: Has anyone tried a grow-out of this? |
April 17, 2013 | #7 | |
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(Tesoro means treasure in Italian and the tomato variety was selected by Nunhems in Italy in 2004 and commercialized in Almeria, Spain under the name Intense™. In 2007, this natural hybrid immediately began to win awards, including Fruit Logistica’s Innovation Award in Berlin, Germany, and the Produce Marketing Association’s Buyer’s Choice Award in 2008. The Produce Exchange and Nunhems collaborated to grow and bring to market the tomato in North America after successful commercial and retail trials in 2010.) It's one thing to say that Tesoro was selected from a natural hybid, but quite different to say, as above, that this natural hybrid began to win awards, etc. Perhaps a word problem, I don't know. Carolyn
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April 17, 2013 | #8 |
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Sorry, wrong German chemical company!
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April 17, 2013 | #9 |
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Let me amend my original post to say that Chris works for a German company in NC.
Ah, the memory, how precious it is, when I have it. Carolyn
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April 18, 2013 | #10 |
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So, perhaps this would be an interesting grow-out project?
I cooked some sauce/stew with a package of them (seven to a pack) the other night. Flavor: OK for a store-bought tomato, but I am aware that these might have been picked green and gas-ripened. A vine-ripened one might be tastier. I've saved the seeds. GTG |
December 8, 2014 | #11 |
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bumping this up to ask: did anyone ever grow this out? Is it stable?
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August 19, 2016 | #12 |
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I have 4 F2 plants growing. It must be a hybrid, the F2s are not the same but they look really great actually. Pretty pointed plums very productive on beautiful plants
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April 11, 2022 | #13 |
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Legality of breeding intense tomatoes
Hello, this is my first post ever—
I’ve grown these tomatoes for a few years, I think they’re in the 6th generation. I like these tomatoes, they’re tasty when fully ripe. I don’t grow them every year, but for 10 years we’ve had these tomatoes. Now I want to breed from them. I want to breed them with with dwarf tomatoes so that I can have smaller compact bush size (I like smaller tomato plants)— But would I be able to share them with other people? Or sell them? |
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