Tomatoville® Gardening Forums


Notices

General information and discussion about cultivating onions, garlic, shallots and leeks.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old December 28, 2017   #16
Medbury Gardens
Tomatovillian™
 
Medbury Gardens's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Medbury, New Zealand
Posts: 1,879
Default

After posting this i went looking around the internet on information around softneck bulbil growing and it appears that want my friends have done is very rare in deed, all the softneck bulbils ive seen on the net grow from the stem half way up, but what my friends grew was hardneck in type. Its only once every 10-15 years there garlic does this so its not a hardneck type.
__________________
Richard




Medbury Gardens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 28, 2017   #17
bower
Tomatovillian™
 
bower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Posts: 6,793
Default

Richard, that is a fine crop of seed stock from the bulbils.
bower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 28, 2017   #18
Medbury Gardens
Tomatovillian™
 
Medbury Gardens's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Medbury, New Zealand
Posts: 1,879
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bower View Post
Richard, that is a fine crop of seed stock from the bulbils.
Thanks bower, it will be interesting to see what the next growing season will do them.
__________________
Richard




Medbury Gardens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 12, 2018   #19
Medbury Gardens
Tomatovillian™
 
Medbury Gardens's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Medbury, New Zealand
Posts: 1,879
Default

Ive sorted the crop out and i'm sure it's a sliverskin soft neck and not a Artichoke as there's no purple colours showing up in it. The lady who grew these bulbils are 'off griders' so water is not as so freely applied like it is my garden, i couldnt see that this line will ever produce a scape here, so i plan to drop some off soon and they'll try again. Will growing from a second generation have a better chance of producing scapes? Bit of fun to play around with and who knows where this could lead.


Below glasses- received bulbils Feb 2017 sowed straight away, from then till winter the bulbils that sprouted where lifted and transferred to another bed
6 - 8 months of growth.

Left of glasses - What sprouted in Spring 4 1/2 months growth.

Above glasses - All the rounds




__________________
Richard





Last edited by Medbury Gardens; January 12, 2018 at 01:52 PM.
Medbury Gardens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 13, 2018   #20
svalli
Tomatovillian™
 
svalli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Vaasa, Finland, latitude N 63°
Posts: 838
Default

Good looking harvest Richard! What size were the original bulbs, which produced multi clove bulbs in just one season?

It makes sense that dry conditions would cause the softnecks to produce real scapes. If the garlic grows in a dry location, only method for future survival is to grow the bulbils on a tall stem, from where the clones will scatter on ground and possibly be moved to better location by wind and rainstorms. Last June here was quite dry and I had no watering for the field grown garlic. Now I have planted all garlic closer to the well, so I can water it during the weekends, if it is dry, so I do not expect to see real scapes in the softnecks.

Sari
__________________
"I only want to live in peace, plant potatoes and dream."
- Moomin-troll by Tove Jansson
svalli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 13, 2018   #21
Medbury Gardens
Tomatovillian™
 
Medbury Gardens's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Medbury, New Zealand
Posts: 1,879
Default

Hi Sari, The size of the bulbs which the bulbils came from are just normal size, she has been growing and selecting this sliverskin line for 30+ years so they may well have adapted to the dry to still be able to grow to that size. She only gave me the bulbils to grow which were smaller the hardneck bulbils. the bulbils now small bulbs that grew in autumn are the ones i'm interested in, the fact that there was variability amoung them in which some sprouted straight away while the rest sat till spring and then grew. So Sari, all the garlic in that plastic crate below was the bulbils given to me 10 months ago. The same happens in my hard neck as well, 99% of my bulbils grow into small bulbs&scapes in the first growing season.

These were planted from hardneck TGS grown bulbs 8-9 months ago, these will only be small bulbs, i'm leaving these in the ground for about another month to mature the bulbils, the scape is still green but the leaves have dried off
__________________
Richard





Last edited by Medbury Gardens; January 13, 2018 at 12:31 PM.
Medbury Gardens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7, 2018   #22
bower
Tomatovillian™
 
bower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Posts: 6,793
Default

Still snowing outside, but my bulbils are up in the greenhouse. Germidour is on the left. Many thanks, Svalli for letting me try these varieties from across the pond! Extra lucky to have bulbils on a softneck variety.
I have more bulbils outdoors in my best bulbil flat covered in kelp, but I kept some of each to put in the greenhouse as a backup. So I don't have to worry now, about the strange winter without snow.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg April-bulbils.JPG (201.7 KB, 33 views)
bower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 7, 2018   #23
Medbury Gardens
Tomatovillian™
 
Medbury Gardens's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Medbury, New Zealand
Posts: 1,879
Default

Looking good bower.

Noticed yesterday the rounds grown from my softneck bulbils are up and a the weather has hardly cooled down, so these bulbil grown soft necks diffidently has vigour than the clone they came from.
__________________
Richard




Medbury Gardens is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:02 AM.


★ Tomatoville® is a registered trademark of Commerce Holdings, LLC ★ All Content ©2022 Commerce Holdings, LLC ★