Solanum phylogenetic tree

[StrongPlant]

I've plowed the entire internet but I can't find a sizeable phylogenetic tree showing genetic relations between solanum species.Is there any at all? I've found a couple of simple ones with common solanum crop plants,but I'd like one that includes a larger number of species.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by StrongPlant

I've plowed the entire internet but I can't find a sizeable phylogenetic tree showing genetic relations between solanum species.Is there any at all? I've found a couple of simple ones with common solanum crop plants,but I'd like one that includes a larger number of species.

Here you go

https://www.google.com/#q=Solanum+Genus&hl=en

Around 1500 different Solanum species.

Carolyn

[Darren Abbey]

Originally Posted by StrongPlant

I've plowed the entire internet but I can't find a sizeable phylogenetic tree showing genetic relations between solanum species.Is there any at all? I've found a couple of simple ones with common solanum crop plants,but I'd like one that includes a larger number of species.

For a full tree showing all the relationships, you may well have to construct it yourself from the available research.

[Fusion_power]

You may find the Spanish list of solanums interesting.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Especies_de_Solanum

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by StrongPlant

I've plowed the entire internet but I can't find a sizeable phylogenetic tree showing genetic relations between solanum species.Is there any at all? I've found a couple of simple ones with common solanum crop plants,but I'd like one that includes a larger number of species.

I already gave you a link to a site with about 1500 species,but with respect to tomatoes,here's a link to Keith Mueller's site which I know will help.

http://kdcomm.net/~tomato/Tomato/tax.html

And look even more at the site since last time I looked Keith gave much more info re the most common Solanum species.

Lots of links there for almost everything,it's a great resouce IMO.

Carolyn

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Fusion_power

You may find the Spanish list of solanums interesting.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Especies_de_Solanum

No habla mucho espanol, but I did find it interesting since many of those species names have long been considered obsolete.

There's no question,though,that the diversity of tomatoes found in Spain and Portugal is outstanding and has only recently become known.

Initially Portugal and Spain were not two countrys and when the Spanish returned from Mexico they brought with them seeds for small yellow ones, so in those two countries there has been more time than elsewhere for mutations and cross pollinations to create different varieties.

Several of us have made contact with Ilex in Spain,who lists over 90 in the SSE Yearbook, and also someone based in Mallorca who is also sourcing seeds.

Many of the ones from Ilex are being grown out for seed production this summer by several of my now 7 seed producers, and I sent many to Gerardo in San Diego/Tijuana and of course Vladimir in the Czech Republic has had a huge Spanish tomato project going until recently.

Carolyn

[StrongPlant]

Originally Posted by Darren Abbey

For a full tree showing all the relationships, you may well have to construct it yourself from the available research.

Really? So you think there is not one already? If that's the case,if I'd do it,I would be the first person to do it ever,which is kinda cool

Originally Posted by Fusion_power

You may find the Spanish list of solanums interesting.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Especies_de_Solanum

Thanks,this is interesting and useful,although not quite what I'm looking for.

Originally Posted by carolyn137

I already gave you a link to a site with about 1500 species,but with respect to tomatoes,here's a link to Keith Mueller's site which I know will help.

http://kdcomm.net/~tomato/Tomato/tax.html

And look even more at the site since last time I looked Keith gave much more info re the most common Solanum species.

Lots of links there for almost everything,it's a great resouce IMO.

Carolyn

Yes I found that site already,under the "Useful links..." thread it's very informative.However,this is an example of a phylogenetic tree:

https://goo.gl/JaE2ns

This one show relationships between various species,and I was wondering if there is one that includes only solanum or species from solanaceae family,and where it can/might be found.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by StrongPlant

Really? So you think there is not one already? If that's the case,if I'd do it,I would be the first person to do it ever,which is kinda cool



Thanks,this is interesting and useful,although not quite what I'm looking for.



Yes I found that site already,under the "Useful links..." thread it's very informative.However,this is an example of a phylogenetic tree:

https://goo.gl/JaE2ns

This one show relationships between various species,and I was wondering if there is one that includes only solanum or species from solanaceae family,and where it can/might be found.

Not in the format that your link above shows,which I didn't like,but try this

First the search

https://www.google.com/#q=Solanaceae+wiki&hl=en

And now the main Wiki one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanaceae

IMO Google should be everyones friend.

Carolyn