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May 3, 2018 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Somis, Ca
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tomato disease again!
So, I had some trouble last year with this too. Several of my young plants are displaying unusual leaf growth. The leaves grow very narrow (sword-like). It can be described as "spindly" growth. There are no signs of bacterial/fungal problems. There is no black or yellow/brown spotting. The vigor is reduced, also. I have an idea what this is....not sure. What do you think? Sorry, I can't do pics (too old). Thanks in advance!
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May 3, 2018 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
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Impossible to help without pics. Got a neighbor, or kid who can help?
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May 3, 2018 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
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Also information about the variety might help. Some varieties have whispy type leaves and tend to look droopy compared to other varieties.
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May 3, 2018 | #4 |
Tomatovillian™
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I do have several varieties affected (including Big Beef, Cherokee Purple, etc). It is looking more and more like what folks here describe as "shoestring" leaf growth.
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May 3, 2018 | #5 |
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Could be herbicide damage---
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May 3, 2018 | #6 |
Tomatovillian™
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Yes it might be herbicide damage. Have you or your neighbors sprayed your lawns and yards with anything recently?
You can check these photos and see if it helps. https://www.google.com/search?source....0.fPxZCawXFJ4
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May 4, 2018 | #7 |
Tomatovillian™
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Is your pH in normal range? Microelements are usually responsible for this sort of problems (and many of them are less available at high pH or high P application). I had narrow leaves, I had suddenly bent down leaves, and other things, it was all deficiencies or toxicities. Unfortunately I can't pinpoint the exact culprit, since I don't have leaf analysis, but copper was probably involved somewhere.
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May 4, 2018 | #8 |
Tomatovillian™
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I say thanks to all for the help. I am now thinking that it is indeed herbicide (roundup) damage. I sprayed in the area...making sure there was no breeze. Maybe that was not enough caution. I think I just learned that tomatoes are hyper-sensitive to herbicides. The damage does resemble CMV...but I will pull the plants and replace.
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May 4, 2018 | #9 | |
Tomatovillian™
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Quote:
Without good pictures it is impossible to know what you are dealing with. Bill |
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May 4, 2018 | #10 |
Tomatovillian™
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Bill,
I am not sure what products have 2-4-d...but I do not think that has been sprayed in the area. Some of the "sword-like" leaves are towards the top...and some leaves display the "clubhead" look, also. I thought I saw "glysophate damaged" tomato pics online...and they displayed the sword-like (shoestring) look. I guess I should pull them. update: I see 2-4-d is in the weed n' feed products. I did not use that around tomatoes....just roundup. Last edited by Ed of Somis; May 4, 2018 at 12:10 PM. |
May 4, 2018 | #11 |
Tomatovillian™
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new pics! I think...
sword-like growth lower left and upper center
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May 4, 2018 | #12 |
Tomatovillian™
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Yeah, that looks a lot like herbicide. In that case best to cut that growth and wait for new normal one to appear.
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May 4, 2018 | #13 |
Tomatovillian™
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I took out the 3 damaged maters...and replaced them with extra grow-outs that I saved. Last year I had CMV...and it looked similar, but more severe. I have a lot of different scenarios going...in ground maters, maters in new potting soil, and maters in old re-used potting soil. Next year I will not re-use any of that old potting soil. It is hard to nail it down, really. Thanks for your help! Ed
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May 5, 2018 | #14 |
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Another source of herbicide can be from purchased compost and hay for mulching.
How about your next door neighbor spraying herbicide !?
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May 5, 2018 | #15 |
Tomatovillian™
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My neighbor does not spray....but my glysophate spraying was within 4-5 feet away (no wind). I am thinking it could be in soil...but it is potted and in-ground maters.
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