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Father'sDaughter · March 21, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cole_Robbie

You're making the hundred bucks I paid the bike shop to clean my carbs look like a bargain.

I came up with a good solution to having to have the carbs cleaned... I bought a fuel injected bike 😄

Glad you got it sorted out, Worth!

Cole_Robbie · March 21, 2016

Good point. I used to have an 05 Yamaha R1 that was fuel-injected. My buddy had an 01 R1, and he had carbs. Mine was a lot smoother, and less temperamental.

Worth1 · March 22, 2016

Early morning test.
This morning I got up to start the bike after sitting all night long.
I pulled the fuel in-richer choke and it fired off on the second roll of the engine.
It idled up and about 30 seconds later I pushed the chock in and it was loping along at low idle without a miss hitting on both cylinders.
Now I am going to go to the auto parts store and get a different starter relay and toss the junk they had on it.
The old relay burned up 2 days ago due to a short when I stuck the battery back in.
I looked on line for the replacement relay and it is $45.
One for an old ford or a universal relay is about $12.
Plus there is no way to mount it without the air box.
I looked on line and found the two exact K&N filters they sell for $40 something dollars each.
The jets are cheap around $6.00 or so.
The other box contraption they sell is what brings the price up to $295 and this is what the side plate and old starter relay fits on.
Plus there is a bracket that comes with it to secure the carburetors.
It is a flat piece of metal about 6 inches long painted black with two holes drilled in it and some bolts.
I can do this for just a little over $100 bucks all together by fabricating my own stuff.

Worth

Cole_Robbie · March 22, 2016

There are a lot of old bikes out there with carb issues. When a bike doesn't run, it can be bought for next to nothing. You would do well fixing them up for re-sale.

Worth1 · March 22, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cole_Robbie

There are a lot of old bikes out there with carb issues. When a bike doesn't run, it can be bought for next to nothing. You would do well fixing them up for re-sale.

Poor mans bobbers and choppers is what I would like to do.
My brother wanted to give me a 450 four cylinder Honda and I didn't take it.
I am kicking myself for it now.

Most people dont know how many of these carbs work.
Here is a video of one I found on YouTube you might like.
https://youtu.be/wyspAHrMbb8

Can I ask you what kind of carburetors you have?

Worth

Cole_Robbie · March 22, 2016

I have the "still in the box from the bike shop" kind: http://i.imgur.com/0x1h792.jpg

Worth1 · March 23, 2016

Still upping the jets on the carburetors but it is getting better and better.
I have a slew of jets for this bike.
While I was at it I put on some old school fish tail pipes.

These pipes are for a Harley but no problem making rear hangers.
I have always want short fish tails on it as I thought the factory mufflers looked out of place and too modern for the styles of bike.
The next step is to get the K&N aired cleaners and build a new seat.
It also now has a new starter relay for a lawn tractor on it.

Long story and one of the reasons I wanted to get rid of the air box.
I have to say the two motorcycle shops here in town are fantastic.
Not snobs like at the dealerships in Austin.
Worth

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Worth1 · March 23, 2016

Started out with factory 120 jets and stock jet needle height.
Didn't bother testing because I already knew they were too lean.
This condition kills motors but they do it to pass emission standards and brag about mileage.
Yesterday bought 122.5, 125 jets new spark plugs and put the 125 jets in.
Took out and tested and it fell flat on its face and plugs showed running way lean.
Came back shimmed up the jet needles 10MM and tested again ran good until the higher rpm and crackled and popped.
This told me I needed much bigger jets.
Today the guy took back the 122.5 jets as I never used them and bought 135 140 and 145 jets.
I just put the 140 jets in and tested it in front of the house.
No crackle and pop at the rpm I could give it here.
Went out on the back roads up and down hills plus a lot of sharp curves and gave it all it would take.
I mean full throttle through every gear I could give it without killing myself.
Even got the front end to leap off the ground going from first to second gear.
This puppy rocks and runs like a scalded ape in all the power bands.
Jetting and carburetor project is complete.
I will order a bigger pilot jet because I am out 3 1/2 turns on the idle mixture screws and that is far as you can go without the spring being too loose.
People go out farther but it isn't the smart thing to do when all you have to do is change the pilot jets.
This has been a really fun project for me and I have had a great time.
My motorcycle hasn't ran in over two years because of everything that has happened in my life.
I kept walking by it with cobwebs and dust on it and it made me sad oh so sad.

I had to do something about it because it was depressing me.
I hope anyone that has been following this has enjoyed it.
Some people like the fancy computer controlled stuff with injection.
To me nothing is more satisfying than tuning bikes the old fashioned way.
Worth

Cole_Robbie · March 23, 2016

Icon is my favorite brand of gear: http://www.rideicon.com/

Stvrob · March 24, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worth1

Poor mans bobbers and choppers is what I would like to do.
My brother wanted to give me a 450 four cylinder Honda and I didn't take it.
I am kicking myself for it now.

Most people dont know how many of these carbs work.
Here is a video of one I found on YouTube you might like.
https://youtu.be/wyspAHrMbb8

Can I ask you what kind of carburetors you have?

Worth

Long ago, I used to ride a four cylinder Honda CB350. To the best of my knowledge it was the smallest 4 cyl made. We had 4 separate vacuum guages to monitor manifold pressure when we adjusted the carbs. I was always too impatient to do it well, but my dad was the master of multi carb adjustments. Properly adjusted, it ran like a sewing machine.

matereater · March 24, 2016

Great job worth. Its so satisfying when things finally work out.

Worth1 · March 24, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by matereater

Great job worth. Its so satisfying when things finally work out.

Thanks.
Today I ordered my air filters directly from K&N and saved about 20 bucks.
As for the other stuff that would have came with the $300 kit what a joke.
Glad I didn't buy it.
Here is the location of the universal starter relay and what the burned up relay looks like.
I also blocked off the air going from the air box to a pump that pumps air into the exhaust gases.
What this does is burn any un-burned fuel in the exhaust and makes the motor run hot.
Now that I have done this there is no more snap crackle pop when I let off the throttle.
The big open space where the air box used to be is where the old ones had an oil tank.
This is going to make a nice place to put a hidden tool kit box.
Worth
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Bulldog · March 25, 2016

I truly think you need to be teaching a course in how to do everything to teens and young adults. I have teens, and I am serious. Lost skillsets vanishing. My father could do almost anything, too. That is why I appreciate it.

efisakov · March 25, 2016

As a teen I was repairing old lamp TV (made with vacuum tubes) in my parents home. Tubes were disconnecting almost every other week. I got used to solder.
In school in home economics class we learned how to fix wires in the iron. New once are not that simple.
This are little things but I was proud of my self not to depend on other people.
Worth, you are doing an amazing job with that bike. Most of the things sounds gibberish to me.

I wish I can learn half of what you can do.

clkeiper · March 25, 2016

amen to both of these sentiments. Bulldog and Efisakov.

I am not going to say this generation is going to be our downfall, but they are so self centered and absorbed with technology that they have no skills. no job skills, no manual skills, no self sufficiency skills. pitiful. Unfortunately our government is partly to blame... when children want to help they aren't old enough ( you sure don't cross osha on this) and when they are old enough they don't want to do it anymore. they are going through childhood playing and not learning any real skills (playing soccer is not a skill) and when they get to being old enough to actual help they find it "work" or boring". Just my personal opinion.

March 23, 2016	#1822
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	Still upping the jets on the carburetors but it is getting better and better. I have a slew of jets for this bike. While I was at it I put on some old school fish tail pipes. These pipes are for a Harley but no problem making rear hangers. I have always want short fish tails on it as I thought the factory mufflers looked out of place and too modern for the styles of bike. The next step is to get the K&N aired cleaners and build a new seat. It also now has a new starter relay for a lawn tractor on it. Long story and one of the reasons I wanted to get rid of the air box. I have to say the two motorcycle shops here in town are fantastic. Not snobs like at the dealerships in Austin. Worth IMG_20160323_33178.jpg IMG_20160323_49350.jpg Last edited by Worth1; March 23, 2016 at 06:21 PM.

March 23, 2016	#1823
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	Started out with factory 120 jets and stock jet needle height. Didn't bother testing because I already knew they were too lean. This condition kills motors but they do it to pass emission standards and brag about mileage. Yesterday bought 122.5, 125 jets new spark plugs and put the 125 jets in. Took out and tested and it fell flat on its face and plugs showed running way lean. Came back shimmed up the jet needles 10MM and tested again ran good until the higher rpm and crackled and popped. This told me I needed much bigger jets. Today the guy took back the 122.5 jets as I never used them and bought 135 140 and 145 jets. I just put the 140 jets in and tested it in front of the house. No crackle and pop at the rpm I could give it here. Went out on the back roads up and down hills plus a lot of sharp curves and gave it all it would take. I mean full throttle through every gear I could give it without killing myself. Even got the front end to leap off the ground going from first to second gear. This puppy rocks and runs like a scalded ape in all the power bands. Jetting and carburetor project is complete. I will order a bigger pilot jet because I am out 3 1/2 turns on the idle mixture screws and that is far as you can go without the spring being too loose. People go out farther but it isn't the smart thing to do when all you have to do is change the pilot jets. This has been a really fun project for me and I have had a great time. My motorcycle hasn't ran in over two years because of everything that has happened in my life. I kept walking by it with cobwebs and dust on it and it made me sad oh so sad. I had to do something about it because it was depressing me. I hope anyone that has been following this has enjoyed it. Some people like the fancy computer controlled stuff with injection. To me nothing is more satisfying than tuning bikes the old fashioned way. Worth Last edited by Worth1; March 23, 2016 at 08:51 PM.

March 24, 2016	#1826
matereater Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: S.E. Michigan (Livonia) Posts: 1,264	Great job worth. Its so satisfying when things finally work out. __________________ Steve Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult

March 25, 2016	#1829
efisakov Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NJ, zone 7 Posts: 3,162	As a teen I was repairing old lamp TV (made with vacuum tubes) in my parents home. Tubes were disconnecting almost every other week. I got used to solder. In school in home economics class we learned how to fix wires in the iron. New once are not that simple. This are little things but I was proud of my self not to depend on other people. Worth, you are doing an amazing job with that bike. Most of the things sounds gibberish to me. I wish I can learn half of what you can do. __________________ Ella God comes along and says, "I think I'm going to create THE tomato!”

March 25, 2016	#1830
clkeiper Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ohio Posts: 4,350	amen to both of these sentiments. Bulldog and Efisakov. I am not going to say this generation is going to be our downfall, but they are so self centered and absorbed with technology that they have no skills. no job skills, no manual skills, no self sufficiency skills. pitiful. Unfortunately our government is partly to blame... when children want to help they aren't old enough ( you sure don't cross osha on this) and when they are old enough they don't want to do it anymore. they are going through childhood playing and not learning any real skills (playing soccer is not a skill) and when they get to being old enough to actual help they find it "work" or boring". Just my personal opinion. __________________ carolyn k

March 21, 2016	#1817
Cole_Robbie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois, zone 6 Posts: 8,407	Good point. I used to have an 05 Yamaha R1 that was fuel-injected. My buddy had an 01 R1, and he had carbs. Mine was a lot smoother, and less temperamental.

March 22, 2016	#1818
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	Early morning test. This morning I got up to start the bike after sitting all night long. I pulled the fuel in-richer choke and it fired off on the second roll of the engine. It idled up and about 30 seconds later I pushed the chock in and it was loping along at low idle without a miss hitting on both cylinders. Now I am going to go to the auto parts store and get a different starter relay and toss the junk they had on it. The old relay burned up 2 days ago due to a short when I stuck the battery back in. I looked on line for the replacement relay and it is $45. One for an old ford or a universal relay is about $12. Plus there is no way to mount it without the air box. I looked on line and found the two exact K&N filters they sell for $40 something dollars each. The jets are cheap around $6.00 or so. The other box contraption they sell is what brings the price up to $295 and this is what the side plate and old starter relay fits on. Plus there is a bracket that comes with it to secure the carburetors. It is a flat piece of metal about 6 inches long painted black with two holes drilled in it and some bolts. I can do this for just a little over $100 bucks all together by fabricating my own stuff. Worth

March 22, 2016	#1819
Cole_Robbie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois, zone 6 Posts: 8,407	There are a lot of old bikes out there with carb issues. When a bike doesn't run, it can be bought for next to nothing. You would do well fixing them up for re-sale.

March 22, 2016	#1821
Cole_Robbie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois, zone 6 Posts: 8,407	I have the "still in the box from the bike shop" kind: http://i.imgur.com/0x1h792.jpg

March 23, 2016	#1824
Cole_Robbie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois, zone 6 Posts: 8,407	Icon is my favorite brand of gear: http://www.rideicon.com/

March 25, 2016	#1828
Bulldog Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Georgia Posts: 126	I truly think you need to be teaching a course in how to do everything to teens and young adults. I have teens, and I am serious. Lost skillsets vanishing. My father could do almost anything, too. That is why I appreciate it.