Your biggest deception this year

[green_go]

Carbon Copy and Mazarini
I gave both of them 2 chances, but both years, they produced very little.
Not growing them anymore.
Need a recommendation for a tasty, productive, non-splitting dark cherry to grow instead of Carbon Copy.

[Labradors2]

How dark? I loved Rosella (cherry) last year. It was a productive and tasty purple that I plan to grow again next year. I can put some in the Cdn swap for you if you like.

Linda

[clkeiper]

I grew rosella and rons carbon copy this year. sitting in a box you couldn't tell them apart. taste to me was not different enough to grow them both.

[PNW_D]

there is always Black Cherry

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Black_Cherry

[Gardeneer]

Out of about 32 varieties I had close to 10 that was big failure in my garden:

-- Dixie Golden Giant
-- George Detsikas IR
-- Old German
-- German Pink
-- Creole
-- Mortgage Lifter
-- Black Cherry

-- Three (3) different heart varieties
Maybe one or two more that I cannot remember.
Some of them were disease magnets and I just pulled them before they had any ripe fruits.
So there goes my elimination/zap list

[Labradors2]

Originally Posted by clkeiper

I grew rosella and rons carbon copy this year. sitting in a box you couldn't tell them apart. taste to me was not different enough to grow them both.

I grew both Rosella and Carbon Copy last year. I found Rosella to be fruity and sweet while CC was more mellow and not sweet. I much preferred Rosella early in the season, but I preferred CC to Rosella at the end of the season.

Linda

[slugworth]

I had Cherokee Carbon but the plant died before the tomatoes got ripe.

[GrowingCoastal]

Ron's Carbon Copy was the last one standing in an area where tomatoes around it succumbed to pm. RCC did too but not until later. RCC had great flavour here this year and was sweet. It will return to my garden.

[Worth1]

Black cherry will fall like a rock in cold damp wet weather.
This is not from one observation but many times many years many plants.

Worth

[clkeiper]

Originally Posted by Worth1

Black cherry will fall like a rock in cold damp wet weather.
This is not from one observation but many times many years many plants.

Worth

mine also split. I have no want need or use for a cherry that splits.

[oakley]

Originally Posted by marc_groleau

Fathers Daughter,
I wouldn't give up just yet. I'm on the MA/RI border. This particular season all of my tomatoes ripened exactly as you described. I know that several local farms and gardeners had the same problem with ripening. I've grown GA for a few seasons now and they really have been great in the past.

Pretty common NEast experience. Like every year I do take note
of what did well despite the troubles. I've always given most
highly recommended varieties a second try, often three tries.
I'm even in the habit of notating the seed source. Planting side
by side with saved vs purchased.

And do try and not let a crap year have too much effect on next
years choices. Hard to shake it though. A few new-to-me favorites
that did well will get prime spots.

My one total spitter was like trying to swallow a cotton ball and
not the cosmetic variety...more like the poly-fill found in most
plush dog toys, (like the piles all over my liv rm floor right now)
from one tiny toy they expand.
Lots of early fruit, then the plant died, no clear explanation why.

I suppose if the tomato is next years super food, like kale and
broccoli sprouts, I've got the seed for those that don't like
tomatoes. A good smoothy filler, lol.

I'll plant again being such an odd year. Maybe just a rogue plant
as well as environmental.

[Lasairfion]

Pretty much everything did poorly this year, so I'm loathe to blame it on the varieties; and more so on the terrible weather we've had.

Even my super-early Latah fruited late and grew badly. However, if anyone knows of any robust varieties (which I can obtain in the UK) that you could recommend for a cold, wet area with a very short growing season, I'd be grateful.

[oakley]

Originally Posted by Lasairfion

Pretty much everything did poorly this year, so I'm loathe to blame it on the varieties; and more so on the terrible weather we've had.

Even my super-early Latah fruited late and grew badly. However, if anyone knows of any robust varieties (which I can obtain in the UK) that you could recommend for a cold, wet area with a very short growing season, I'd be grateful.

You might try experimenting with Dwarfs and micros. Not
recommending you scrap your entire usual growing system as is.
(next year just may have better weather and a bit longer season)

Micros can be started way early and sit for some time in red cup
size pots. I use a nursery square 4" but they are tall and hold
about 1/3rd more medium/volume so same space being 'tall'.
Dwarfs also can be given a head start for the same reason.
Growing in 1 and 2 gallon containers can go out sooner in the
early Spring warm weather, then easily brought inside if a late
frost occurs.

My micro multi-floras were producing a ton of fruit when my
indeterminate plants were still waiting to go into the ground.

I had my first light frost the morning of Sept 3rd, a month ago.
35 this morning. Last Spring a late frost. Most of my tomatoes
had to wait until late June it was so cold and wet.

I'd try a few containers next year and see how it goes.
Marsha, oh-so-generous-enabler, has a seed offer probably in
Jan and has a few released DwarfProject toms in her offer.
Many available now in catalogs.

[Nan_PA_6b]

Originally Posted by clkeiper

mine also split. I have no want need or use for a cherry that splits.

This year the splitting was brutal, and harvest was sparse as usual. Black Cherry will not be invited back.

Nan

[Nan_PA_6b]

Originally Posted by oakley

You might try experimenting with Dwarfs and micros.

I'll put in a plug for Hardin's Miniature. The taste is strong, old-fashioned, tangy goodness and it continues to produce forever.
Nan