Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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September 22, 2007 | #1 |
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My cutting edge solution
Dedicating this post to a generous lady member here who sent me a whole lot of seeds on her own. Thanks.
We put a lot of dedications into growing tomatoes. I just don’t like at the end these beautiful maters get all messed up into a mushy pile with bad knifes. (not my video) http://youtube.com/watch?v=Tm-LWceeTkE I have not been able to find a knife that’s really designed for cutting tomatoes. So I designed and made my own. From the video, you'll see that there are a few types of cutting operation this design can get done easily. I started out with a high quality high carbon stainless steel slicing knife and reshaped it. I actually ended up with extra steel to make another paring knife for general use so that I don’t have to dull my tomato knife. The high carbon steel can keep a razor edge to give me clean paper-thin slices for a long long time. http://youtube.com/watch?v=gIWRklZHlNo Tools needed: Dremel rotary tool with abrasive cutter wheel. Grinding stone, and sharpening stone to give a final razor edge. Let me know what you think. dcarch
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September 22, 2007 | #2 |
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looks like quite the handy dandy knife.....now all we have to hear is the sales pitch spiel. Looks like its very easy to use. And what I like was one tool did it all.
Off topic - watched your removable greehouse video. Obviously an easy teardown there. To paraphrase an old saying: "Laziness is the mother of invention."....it isn't always just necessity. My grandfather who was a tool and die maker and could design the tools to make the dies, said it was laziness rather than necessity that was more paramount to him. Looking for an easier more efficient way to make it, and do the job with it. Which I think applies to both your new knife and removable greenhouse. Great work, Dcarch! |
September 22, 2007 | #3 |
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Very nice! I have a tomato knife it has a sharp tip and is serrated it is a little bigger then a steak knife.
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September 22, 2007 | #4 |
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So those were the fiberglass-reinforced Dremel cutting
wheels? I was wondering about cutting a profile in a retired high speed steel planer blade or similar with a diamond-coated chainsaw sharpening cutter for a Dremel (faster than a diamond-coated rod saw in a hacksaw frame, and high speed steels can get a lot hotter than cutlery steels before the material loses its hardness). High speed steel is not as corrosion resistant as stainless, but quite a bit more than regular high-carbon steel. Handy-looking knife, anyway (and unlike a knife made from scratch, it comes with a handle:-). I find that I may not have time right then to stop and hone a knife that I find a little too dull when I start to slice tomatoes, so I keep a thin, serrated, Ginzu slicing knife handy for a backup. It is not as fast as a really sharp knife, but it doesn't mush the tomatoes.
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September 22, 2007 | #5 |
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I hate serrated knives.
There’s no better knife than a, “razor sharp knife” to cut tomatoes. Nice job Dcarch!!!! If you like knives I use these folks for a lot of stuff I buy. http://www.jantzsupply.com/cartease/ Gunsmith tools and other wise. Worth |
September 22, 2007 | #6 |
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Mine is serrated on one side of blade... I told my DH one day it is the best one to use on tomatoes. I checked a catalog and it indeed is called a tomato knife.
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September 22, 2007 | #7 |
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OK, I get the message: I am a no good lazy SOB bum Quote:
That’s exactly what I used. I had to have a pot of water to cool the blade often so that I don’t de-temper the steel. Quote:
That’s a great link! Thanks. Quote:
I know they call that a tomato knife. But it can't do the cuts I need. For sure I will be very careful. That's the finger I often need in traffic whenever someone cuts me off. dcarch
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September 22, 2007 | #9 |
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What can I say?....I'm all for something that allows me to do something easier and more efficiently....guess that makes me a lazy DOB bum too...lol
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September 22, 2007 | #10 |
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Love the knife and video. Does any one here peel them? That's the old way that I love most.
Don
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September 23, 2007 | #11 |
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"I don’t like serrated knives. You can’t really sharpen them.'
Actually you can sharpen one like Rena's, you just need the right tool: a diamond-coated rod with a diameter small enough so that the curve of the rod is at least as small as the curve of the teeth. For something like the Ginzu, the teeth are extremely fine, and it's so cheap that one can just grind the teeth off and throw it in a junk drawer when it gets dull, and buy another. Here is a pretty good knife (not stainless, will rust, so it needs to be cleaned and dried after each use, but one can get it very sharp): http://www.japanwoodworker.com/produ...&dept_id=13198 It may seem a little thick at first glance for tomato slicing, but if it is sharp enough, one finds that is not an issue.
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I keep a high-carbon steel knife separately for slicing only. It has been a few years since I last sharpened it. I can still shave with it. Yes, you need to wipe it dry afterwards so it would rust. dcarch
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September 23, 2007 | #13 |
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"Serrated blades are not generally made with good steel."
True more often than not. My thin Ginzu slicer seems decently corrosion resistant, but the ability to hold an edge is not a selling point. "I keep a high-carbon steel knife separately for slicing only. It has been a few years since I last sharpened it. I can still shave with it. Yes, you need to wipe it dry afterwards so it would not rust." High carbon, non-stainless blades will even start to pit while you are slicing with them, though the pits are too small to see at first. If the knife is professionally sharp when you start, this does not interfere with tomato slicing (more or less "micro-serrated"). One can keep a fine stone handy and run that sort of blade over it a few times after drying it to minimize the micro-pits. The advantage of high-carbon steel ("will rust") blades over stainless blades is that they sharpen up faster and usually can get sharper. The disadvantage is that they do not take abuse very well ("edge will chip", so do not spend much money on one unless you are very careful with it as a matter of habit). People who take their knives seriously may find these reviews informative: http://www.cutleryscience.com/reviews/reviews.html (Only a few kitchen knives are reviewed; section is down near the bottom of the page. But it does take a thorough look at the performance of many different knives of various types, and the explanations of why something performs the way it does is generally useful in understanding knife materials and edge design.) One place to get quality knife sharpening if you do not have the time or knowledge to do it yourself and do not have a professional sharpening shop handy: http://drsharpening.com/ (They do mail order sharpening.)
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September 24, 2007 | #14 |
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Hands down - and if you want the BEST - def. a knife you can pass on to the little ones ...
I suggest the "Wusthof Tomato Knife" ... Its by far, the BEST knife I've ever used ... http://www.wusthof.com/ ~ Tom
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September 24, 2007 | #15 |
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For those that want a serrated edge on any good carbon steel knife this is the cats meow I have one that is 40 lines per inch I use for checkering steel and serrating.
Checkering Wide Pillar Files- As wide as a hand file but, as with all pillar files, cut on bottom and top, but not on sides. Useful for putting serrations on knife edges and to obtain a checkered design similar to a gun handgrip. Overcut is parallel to the file edges and upcut is 90° to overcut. The lines per inch will vary depending upon the length. See chart below for specifics. Just imagine 40 little teeth an inch on a knife edge that can be sharpened with a stone, 'as you will use the file on both sides. Worth |
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