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Old March 2, 2018   #1
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I usually grow Green Skin Bitter Melon/gourd. Green Skin was not available from Baker Creek this year, instead I bought Abashi. I googled this and couldn't find much about this B.G except what the description said at Baker Creek.

I don't anyone else in my area that grows Bitter Gourd except me. Here though, someone else must grow it. Some thoughts from someone who grew Abashi Bitter Gourd would be most helpfull
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Abashi is one of the bitter melons that I grow in rotation, a Japanese variety with glossy, deep green skin. Not as long as some, and only moderately productive for me... maybe it will do better in a warmer climate. Wish I could post a photo, but I lost that capability when PB stopped free hosting.

The seed for this variety was originally offered through the Seed Savers Exchange. Is Baker Creek offering it now? I couldn't find it on their website. Jere is an SSE member, so if he has Abashi, his seed is probably from the same source as mine.

Just checked... my seed is overdue for renewal, so I will probably be growing Abashi this year too.

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Abashi is one of the bitter melons that I grow in rotation, a Japanese variety with glossy, deep green skin. Not as long as some, and only moderately productive for me... maybe it will do better in a warmer climate. Wish I could post a photo, but I lost that capability when PB stopped free hosting.

The seed for this variety was originally offered through the Seed Savers Exchange. Is Baker Creek offering it now? I couldn't find it on their website. Jere is an SSE member, so if he has Abashi, his seed is probably from the same source as mine.

Just checked... my seed is overdue for renewal, so I will probably be growing Abashi this year too.
Hi,
This season Baker Creek has 3 bitter melons listed in their catalog, they are:
Big Top Bitter Melon
Satsuma Ohnaga Bitter Melon ( I almost ordered this)
and Abashi Bitter Melon.
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I already ordered from Baker Creek this season. I am glad that I got my bitter melon, as in the past they have run out of it.
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I hope that the above is helpful.
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Baker Creek has two more BM varieties listed now on their website (it took me awhile to find them). You might be particularly interested in "Taiwan White", described as a very mild variety. I just ordered some for trial.

"Siamese", based upon the description, may be similar in flavor to the very bitter "Thailand" variety I obtained from Evergreen Seeds... but "Thailand" is much more elongated (and has the shortest DTM of any BM I've grown thus far).
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Baker Creek has two more BM varieties listed now on their website (it took me awhile to find them). You might be particularly interested in "Taiwan White", described as a very mild variety. I just ordered some for trial.

"Siamese", based upon the description, may be similar in flavor to the very bitter "Thailand" variety I obtained from Evergreen Seeds... but "Thailand" is much more elongated (and has the shortest DTM of any BM I've grown thus far).
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Yes, I saw the other two varieties of Bitter Melon at Baker Creek. It was the word 'mild' that made be pick the Abashi seed.
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I haven't ordered from Evergreen Seed in years. But I used to order from them-where I bought a Hybrid bitter melon from, the only seed I bought from them didn't germinate was a gourd: Yatoo? Something like that...or maybe that is the name of a Star Wars charecter? I can't remember...anyway, have you ordered from them lately?
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I like to pre-cook mine a little, then add it to stewed tomatoes. Sometimes I stuff it with bread crumbs and vegetables and bake it. But I like it raw the most. I heard that it is good with scrambled eggs, but I haven't tried that yet.
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I haven't ordered from Evergreen for several years. They were late in delivering when I last ordered, and one of the varieties (a soybean) was completely dead. Their website has been up & down several times in recent years. My confidence in them is pretty low at present... which is unfortunate, given that they still have quite a bit that is unavailable elsewhere.

Yes, eggs & tomatoes complement bitter melon well. DW makes a soup out of bitter melon, eggs, tomato, and chicken. We par-boil the BM to reduce bitterness. You can also cut & salt BM, which will also reduce the bitterness.

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I haven't ordered from Evergreen for several years. They were late in delivering when I last ordered, and one of the varieties (a soybean) was completely dead. Their website has been up & down several times in recent years. My confidence in them is pretty low at present... which is unfortunate, given that they still have quite a bit that is unavailable elsewhere.

Yes, eggs & tomatoes complement bitter melon well. DW makes a soup out of bitter melon, eggs, tomato, and chicken. We par-boil the BM to reduce bitterness. You can also cut & salt BM, which will also reduce the bitterness.
I do parboil the bitter melon. I haven't tried salting it yet, but if I get any Bitter melon this year, I will try it. Soup sounds like a winner to me!

. I hope that the seed I ordered from Baker Creek is viable. Even from Baker Creek, sometimes the seed isn't. It is to early for me to start any seed, not until probably late April.
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