YOUR Tentativ Grow out ... for 2016 season

[disneynut1977]

Originally Posted by heirloomtomaguy

I cant nail down a list until the day i plant the seed. Even then i change my mind quite a few times.

I'm the same. When seeds start sprouting I think darn I should have started this too.

Luckly for me, at the new to us house, my husband has given me the go ahead to do what I want in the backyard. 2016 will be the biggest year for me.

[Strongheart]

17 in ground
15 in Pots

Sungold
Jasper
Lucid Gem
Big Beef
Garden Treasure
Brandywine OTV
Giant Belgium
Mexico
Stump of the World
Marianna's Peace
Neves Azorean Red
Blue Ridge Black
KBX
Prue
Crnkovic Yugoslavian
Lucky Cross
Fruity Cherry
Matt's Wild Cherry
Black Sea Man
Bella Rose
Dice's Mystery Black

Dwarves
Boronia
Dwarf Mr. Snow
Uluru Ochre
Sleeping Lady
Yukon Quest
Chocolate Champion
Sweet Adelaide
Tasmanian Chocolate
Sweet Scarlet Dwarf
Dwarf Pink Passion
Dwarf Mahogany Tomato

[simmran1]

My ‘tentative’ list also includes Big Beef

Angelos Red
Big Beef F1
Bola Macizo
Box Car Willie
Burcham New Gen
Carbon
County Agent
Cossack
Dakota Sport
Dana’s Dusky Rose
Daniels
Fruit Punch cherry
Mikado
Mule Team
Tangerine
Woodle Orange

[Douglas14]

I'm planning on growing several medium-sized red/pink tomatoes such as:
Abraham Lincoln
Red Brandywine
Livingston's Favorite
Livingston's Magnus
Sioux
Cosmonaut Volkov
Rutgers
Bradley
Greater Baltimore
Wisconsin 55

A few hearts/ovals I'm considering:
Ashleigh
Kosovo
Mediterranean
Amish Paste
Santa Maria
Prue

A few beefsteaks such as:
Aker's West Virginia
Brandywine Sudduth
Marianna's Peace

Maybe one or two cherries:
Sun Sugar hybrid possibly

A few others I'm considering are:
Porter
Amish Salad
and maybe a medium to large orange variety.

I'm hoping to cut back to somewhere around 30-35 plants next year. If anyone has any other suggestions for the categories above, or comments on the varieties I've listed, feel free to PM me.

[Gardeneer]

Quick Glance :

A) SunGold is the top choice, so far
B) Big Beef , Rosella ., KBX< Indian Stripe @ Paul Robson are mentioned often

About half of those on my list is at least on your list. ( ~ 40% ). But as the numbers keep growing, everything on my list will be found at least in one other list.

How many varieties you are growing ?
I have not tabulated yet. But I estimate so far close to 200 varieties. This is a very diverse community. Everybody seems to grow something different : ( MY OWN THING !!). I have couple of those ( MY OWN THING !!).
Statistics is amazing mathematics.

Gardeneer

[MendozaMark]

Tomatoes for 2016 -New seeds for Mendoza desert trials, Should be able to get most of these in the garden if not, 2017.

1. Cole
2. George Detsikas Italian Red
3. Chang Li
4. Tasmanian Chocolate
5. Titan Red
6. Pink Rose
7. Mano
8. fahrenheit blues
9. Qinyanai Huang
10. Cyril’s Choice
11. Belmonte
12. Idatarod red
13. Sweet Sue
14. Dwarf Arctic Rose
15. Krasnodar Titans
16. Sakharnyi Pudovichok
17. Deep Space (snickers)- moose faced paste
18. Danko
19. Napoli a Fiaschetto
20. Petrusha Ogorodnik
21. Ron's Carbon Copy
22. Indigo Cherry drops
23. Bumblebee cherries
24. Tiger cherries
25. Lucid Gem
26. Black Beauty
27. Chestnut Chocolate
28. Secret Sauce (short version)
29. Sweet Tooth
30. Blush
31. Rosella Purple
32. Freds tie dye
33. Hahms Gelbe Topflomate
34. Lemon drop
35. Remy rouge
36. Orange minsk
37. NAR
38. Mrs schlaubaugh’s famous strawberry
39. Maglia rosa
40. Whippersnapper
41. Kosovo
42. Kim's Civil War Oxheart Tomato
43. Indian Stripe Tomato
44. Rosella Crimson Tomato
45. Sweet Scarlet Dwarf Tomato
46. Summer Sunrise Dwarf Tomato
47. Sarandipity Dwarf Tomato
48. Super Sioux Tomato
49. Jazz
50. Orange Jazz
51. Manzano Fire
52. Orange Caprese
53. Saraev M-22
54. Saraev Gruntovyi
55. Saraev Druzhnyi
56. Saraev Bezrassadnyi
57. Sanka
58. Kalinka
59. Lime Green Salad
60. Sasha's Altai
61. Sleeping Lady
62. Yukon Quest
63. EM-Champion
64. Rebel Yell
65. Porter, Charles Herring Strain
66. Taxi
67. Black and Brown Boar

Too early to make a list for returning tomatoes from 2015, another 6 weeks and I should have a pretty good idea what is coming back. I have 70 types in now , I would say around 20 will get an invite back.

[Growing West]

Tomato Varieties 2016

1. Hunk Papa - Brown - L - Beefsteak - 80 - PL
2. Gigant Kuby - Black - M - Globe - 80 - RL
3. African Black Mystery PL - Brown - L - Beefsteak - 78 - PL
4. Cherokee Black Heart - Black - L - Oxheart - 85 - RL
5. Reinhardt Kraft's Purple Heart - Purple - L - Oxheart - 90 - RL
6. Chernoe Serdtse PL - Black - M - Oxheart - 75 - PL
7. Japanese Black Trifele - Black - M - Pear - 78 - PL
8. Black Mountain Pink - Pink - XL - Globe - 85 - RL
9. Joe's Pink Oxheart - Pink - XL - Oxheart- 75 - RL
10. Morado de Aretxabaleta - Pink - L - Globe - 80 - RL
11. Marianna's Peace - Pink - L - Beefsteak - 80 - PL
12. Grosse Verte Rose - Black Bi-color - L - Beefsteak - 70 - RL
13. Everett's Rusty Oxheart - Brown Bi-color - M - Oxheart - 75 - RL
14. Mammoth German Gold - Orange Bi-color - XL - Globe - 85 - RL
15. Orange Russian 117 - Orange Bi-color - L - Oxheart - 80 - RL
16. Piedmont Pear - Orange Bi-color - S - Pear - 75 - RL
17. Cherokee Green Pear - Green - S - Pear - 72 - RL
18. First Mate - Green Bi-color - XL - Globe - 85 - PL
19. GWR Wildthyme - Bi-color - L - Beefsteak - 85 - PL
20. Damascus Steel - Blue Bi-color - M - Globe - 75 - RL
21. Summer Cider - Apricot - L - Beefsteak - 85 - PL
22. Wessel's Purple Pride - Purple - M - Elongate - 78 - RL
23. Abbattista Paste - Red - L - Elongate - 75 - RL
24. Andine Cornue - Red - M - Horn - 80 - RL
25. Cherry Brandywine - Pink - S - Beefsteak - 70 - RL
26. Fablonelystyni - Yellow - S - Beefsteak - 70 - RL
27. Piennolo del Vesuvio - Red - S - Pear - 75 - PL
28. Ania - Green Bi-color - S - Globe - 65 - PL
29. Cinnamon Pear - Brown - C - Pear - 75 - RL
30. Galapagos Pear - Pink - C - Pear - 70 - RL

[Gardeneer]

Originally Posted by Growing West

Tomato Varieties 2016

1. Hunk Papa - Brown - L - Beefsteak - 80 - PL
2. Gigant Kuby - Black - M - Globe - 80 - RL
3. African Black Mystery PL - Brown - L - Beefsteak - 78 - PL
4. Cherokee Black Heart - Black - L - Oxheart - 85 - RL
5. Reinhardt Kraft's Purple Heart - Purple - L - Oxheart - 90 - RL
6. Chernoe Serdtse PL - Black - M - Oxheart - 75 - PL
7. Japanese Black Trifele - Black - M - Pear - 78 - PL
8. Black Mountain Pink - Pink - XL - Globe - 85 - RL
9. Joe's Pink Oxheart - Pink - XL - Oxheart- 75 - RL
10. Morado de Aretxabaleta - Pink - L - Globe - 80 - RL
11. Marianna's Peace - Pink - L - Beefsteak - 80 - PL
12. Grosse Verte Rose - Black Bi-color - L - Beefsteak - 70 - RL
13. Everett's Rusty Oxheart - Brown Bi-color - M - Oxheart - 75 - RL
14. Mammoth German Gold - Orange Bi-color - XL - Globe - 85 - RL
15. Orange Russian 117 - Orange Bi-color - L - Oxheart - 80 - RL
16. Piedmont Pear - Orange Bi-color - S - Pear - 75 - RL
17. Cherokee Green Pear - Green - S - Pear - 72 - RL
18. First Mate - Green Bi-color - XL - Globe - 85 - PL
19. GWR Wildthyme - Bi-color - L - Beefsteak - 85 - PL
20. Damascus Steel - Blue Bi-color - M - Globe - 75 - RL
21. Summer Cider - Apricot - L - Beefsteak - 85 - PL
22. Wessel's Purple Pride - Purple - M - Elongate - 78 - RL
23. Abbattista Paste - Red - L - Elongate - 75 - RL
24. Andine Cornue - Red - M - Horn - 80 - RL
25. Cherry Brandywine - Pink - S - Beefsteak - 70 - RL
26. Fablonelystyni - Yellow - S - Beefsteak - 70 - RL
27. Piennolo del Vesuvio - Red - S - Pear - 75 - PL
28. Ania - Green Bi-color - S - Globe - 65 - PL
29. Cinnamon Pear - Brown - C - Pear - 75 - RL
30. Galapagos Pear - Pink - C - Pear - 70 - RL

Amazing grow out list ( to me). And I like your abbreviated description.
I have only grown one of those :

>>>>> 7. Japanese Black Trifele - Black - M - Pear - 78 - PL

I am only familiar (name recognition) with the following 2 : Call me Newbie

11. Marianna's Peace - Pink - L - Beefsteak - 80 - PL
15. Orange Russian 117 - Orange Bi-color - L - Oxheart - 80 - RL

One day I might grow those two.

Gardeneer

[Growing West]

Thanks, I need to have a little more info than the name on my lists to assure that I get the bases covered each year, or that I am not trialing on top of a variety that isn't a candidate for replacement. Most of my list is comprised of varieties I've grown for years, but about one-third is recent or new to me in 2016 trials. I like to keep that approximate balance. Its good to have new curiosities to look forward to, but even more important to go back to the one's that have continually proven to be stars in the garden and on the table.

[Gardeneer]

Originally Posted by Growing West

Thanks, I need to have a little more info than the name on my lists to assure that I get the bases covered each year, or that I am not trialing on top of a variety that isn't a candidate for replacement. Most of my list is comprised of varieties I've grown for years, but about one-third is recent or new to me in 2016 trials. I like to keep that approximate balance. Its good to have new curiosities to look forward to, but even more important to go back to the one's that have continually proven to be stars in the garden and on the table.

Thank You, GW
Certainly your description can be valuable for others to choose from. Info like fruits size, color, DTM are deciding factors for most of us. For example, say I want a beefsteak size yellow /orange with short DTM :

26. Fablonelystyni - Yellow - S - Beefsteak - 70 - RL

Bingo.
I should've done similarly with my list.

Gardeneer

[Growing West]

DTM isn't real reliable in my list, or likely in anyone else's. Some I have taken from the couple of sites I consider the most reliable. I have adjusted some based on how they have related to others I have grown. My earliest tomatoes this year were mostly my latest. We got extremely hot weather early that suspended pollination of those that were ready to go. I didn't adjust for this event.

[sjamesNorway]

Originally Posted by Growing West

Thanks, I need to have a little more info than the name on my lists to assure that I get the bases covered each year, or that I am not trialing on top of a variety that isn't a candidate for replacement. Most of my list is comprised of varieties I've grown for years, but about one-third is recent or new to me in 2016 trials. I like to keep that approximate balance. Its good to have new curiosities to look forward to, but even more important to go back to the one's that have continually proven to be stars in the garden and on the table.

Your list is unusual, and includes some varieties I don't remember having come across after two years of searching. I'm curious as to which are your stars, and what your hardiness zone is?

Steve

[Growing West]

Hi, I live on a sunny bench above the Missouri River near Great Falls. This is truly a hardiness zone 4 area as every few years our Alberta neighbors get uncomfortabley low on Molson, and in stress, they send us innocent bystanders one of their famous clippers. Our growing seasons are usually about the warmest and longest in all of USDA hardiness zone 4, though. I've found over six growing seasons that many long season tomatoes can do okay here. My slightly more than anedoctal guess is that the one's that do the best are more adapted to cool nights.

Mammoth German Gold is one of my stars. I even got a few consistently in the shortest season area of Zone 4 along Lake Superior in Northern Minnesota. I got about fifteen from one plant this year. I have delivered plants to my elderly relatives in Kansas and Oklahoma, and they raved all about their flavor over the dozen or so other types. I like tomatoes with a good balance of tanginess and sweetness in the flavor. My wife and my mother both prefer sweet, my well decorated chief friend in San Fransisco prefers tangy and complex. All of us like really like Mammoth German Gold. I have tried Wagon Wheel, Pineapple, Hillbilly, Lucky Cross, Orange Russian 117, and Arkansas Traveler. Mammoth German Gold has universally beat them all in yield and in flavor amongst my divese group of tasters.

I also like Japanese Black Trifele and Morado de Aretxabaleta a lot for flavor. The latter started to come on near the end of the season and ripened well off the vine. The Cinnamon Pear yields great for me. I don't like really sweet or gel filled cherries. I prefer the meatiest textured ones I can find. I am still looking for the perfect cherry to my taste. The one's on my list are the closest I've trialed, but I am apparently the only odd person in the world who doesn't swoon over sungold types.

Black Mountain Pink is sort of a every second or third year trophy for me. I get a couple of perfectly formed giant one's at that interval when the season is long and the nights are mostly warm. I hope to get a cross from it with more northern reliability and just a little more zing.

Most of my list is now available from a combination of Marianna's and Secret Seed Cartel. A few I got from a couple of orders a few years ago from Tatiana. I ordered Joe's Pink Oxheart from the propriety source as seeds and as plants. The seed pack never germinated well and the few plants I got didn't thrive. I saved seeds from the plants that produced a lot of tasty, near perfect in form, but smaller than advertised tomatoes. Hopefully these do a lot better than those from the seed pack purchased a few years earlier.

[sjamesNorway]

Hi Growing West, and thanks for the information. I also like balanced taste, and I'm not crazy about Sun Gold (nice candy). For tomatoes I consider my hardiness zone to be 3, mostly because of the shortness of the season. We had a very bad season this year, and only got a few tomatoes from supposedly early outdoor plants. I'll be rigging up some makeshift high tunnels next year. Mammoth German Gold sounds very good, and I'll have to try it in my small greenhouse. Cinnamon Pear would probably do OK in a tunnel here. I have Joe's Pink Oxheart on my definite "have to grow" list. If you find your perfect cherry, please let me know.

Steve

[Cole_Robbie]

That is a glowing recommendation for Mammoth German Gold, that you like it better than OR 117 and Lucky Cross, both of which are very sweet and popular varieties.