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Old June 15, 2017   #1
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Default Spraying schedule and the elements.

Ive stepped up my game this year and finally added rewire cages and black garden covering over the ground. I have also gotten a new sprayer in hopes of keeping with a solid schedule. Ill be spraying thuricide for hornworms, daconil and neem oil for the various pest and diseases. Im wondering how spraying after rain is worked in to schedules. Do you just start a new cycle after it rains? How do people handle multi day on and off rain? For instance I sprayed last wednesday and I had planned on doing next week (every two weeks), but it rained the past two days straight and will rain again tomorrow. Is it best to just wait until the weather report shows a solid block of clear or non rainy days? Should I have sprayed today, no rain today but will tomorrow and the next few possibly, then after the showers let up?


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I almost started a thread today addressing these questions as well. I am trying to be as proactive as possible this year. I will add another question if I may. Does neem, spinosad, daconil remain effective say if it rains 24 hrs. after application? I get conflicting info on Internet searchings.

I too will be watching this thread for input.
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There is also another similar thread just started so there seems to be more than just my passing interest in this topic. Hope to hear more!

My garden is 10-15 minutes away from me and spraying after every rain is just not pratical as frequent as we get rain. Ive settle on just spraying all three neem, thuricide, daconil, once a week immediately after rain (and hopefully before a stretch of nice weather). So more than reccommended, given nice weather, but not as frequent as reapplying after every rain.
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I use a 1/2 tsp or so of Dawn dish soap as a sticker in my sprays. It will help keep the spray on the plants through a couple of mild rains. With big downpours, theres not much you can do.
I always look at it like this. If you spray and it rains the next day, at least you have had a days worth of protection you didnt have before. Or bug zapping. Depending on what you spray.
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I have been unable to apply my usual fungicide sprays for most of the past three weeks. I did get in one copper spray that got to stay on almost 24 hours before the downpours started back. I use the diluted bleach spray when frequent rains are a problem to lessen the disease problems. It can be used frequently and applied between rains even with just a few minutes to work it helps.

http://tomatoville.com/showthread.ph...t=bleach+spray

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https://www.groworganic.com/nu-film-p-gallon.html https://www.groworganic.com/nu-film-17-gallon.html

Someone directed me to these, and from what I can gather online, they are very effective. I am ordering some myself.

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https://www.groworganic.com/nu-film-p-gallon.html https://www.groworganic.com/nu-film-17-gallon.html

Someone directed me to these, and from what I can gather online, they are very effective. I am ordering some myself.


Thank you guys, I'd never even thought/known about sticking agents to tackle this issue! Are their any highly recommend brands people here use (50 gallons is a bit much)?

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I've been eyeing this up as a spreader/sticker. Anyone use FarmWorks 80/20 Surfactant, 1 Gal.
from Tractor Supply?

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/pr...l?cm_vc=-10005
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I've been eyeing this up as a spreader/sticker. Anyone use FarmWorks 80/20 Surfactant, 1 Gal.
from Tractor Supply?

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/pr...l?cm_vc=-10005

Never heard of it until you linked it. I found this label info but I can't find any info according to vegetable use. It says you can use it on vegetables, I just don't see anything past that.
http://cru66.cahe.wsu.edu/~picol/pdf/WA/66038.pdf


Here's another 80/20 but I think it's a different manufacturer Plant Agra?
http://www.plantagraproducts.com/pdf...SURFACTANT.pdf
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I use Dr. Bronner's Castile Soap or a drop of Dawn as my spreader.
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I have use Dr Bronners Peppermint Soap. Cheap, easy to find, smells great. Can use the leftovers for showers.
Also have used Dawn Dish Soap. Cheap, easy to find. Can use leftovers for dishes.
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Anyone know any good charts availible, my google fu is failing me, on what fungicides, insecticides, etc can be mixed in the same sprayer? Could I mix the daconil and thuricide? Save me some time.
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I have always heard not to mix. It sure would make things easier, but I don't want to take chances and negate the effectiveness of one or both.
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I have always heard not to mix. It sure would make things easier, but I don't want to take chances and negate the effectiveness of one or both.
Corrrect. !!!!!

Never ever mix anything with Daconil,I just wrote a long post about this a couple of weeks ago.

The attachment sites for both EB and Septoria are on the upper leaf surface, what Daconil does is to block those sites. If you dilute anything else with Daconil it reduces the number of chlorothalonil molecules so they can't block all the sites.

I'd do a search for my post,it's longer,but I don't have the time.

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Corrrect. !!!!!

Never ever mix anything with Daconil,I just wrote a long post about this a couple of weeks ago.

The attachment sites for both EB and Septoria are on the upper leaf surface, what Daconil does is to block those sites. If you dilute anything else with Daconil it reduces the number of chlorothalonil molecules so they can't block all the sites.

I'd do a search for my post,it's longer,but I don't have the time.

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