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Old November 14, 2008   #1
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Default 2009 Gardens Are Headed Our Way

If you take the 2 zeros out of 2009 you get 29 and if you stick 19 in front of 29 you get 1929 which was a very bad year. And they say history repeats itself. Everyone should plant more than tomatoes just in case groceries get scarce and sky high. :-)

I'm cooking tomato sauce tonight, from tomatoes of the last harvest before frost, mostly San Marzano. Probably 18 pint jars worth.

If you've already decided what you're going to plant in 09 I'll bet the list will change several times before March. I think my theme for 09 will be 'remembering those of yesteryear.' About time I regrew some of the 9s I've been forsaking these past few summers.

Stay warm. From what I understand the Earth has been cooling these last 10 years. Where's the Global Warming crowd during Winter when we need them the most to help keep us cheerful?
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Old November 14, 2008   #2
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Hey Earl,

Geez, I thought YOU were the eternal optimist among our group here.

My 93 year old dad tells me that it was actually 1932 through 1934 when things turned their bleakest - - not 1929.

Anyway, plant more tomatoes in 2009!!

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Old November 15, 2008   #3
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Don't let the newspapers and media tell you how happy or unhappy you are supposed to be. Heck, when most folks were making a bazillion dollars in the early 90's I was plodding along just keeping my head above water. I imagine the next few years will be the same lord willing.

Try not to sink into despair. It doesn't help believe me.

Look for happiness in small everyday things. And like Ray said, 'grow more tomatoes'! If more people got their butts out of the recliner in front of the t.v. and did something....anything....including growing a small garden the world and America would be better off.


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Old November 15, 2008   #4
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I feel we need to start learning to go back to the "old ways" More self reliance. I work at a mental hospital and i hear that everything is someone elses fault so much it makes me sick. I am of the opinion that we prepare for the worst and hope for the best. Being prepared makes us accountable for ourselves vs going on welfare if something does go wrong. Just because we grow tons of tomato and nothing goes wrong does not make us a pacifest. It just means we get to eat the best pasta sauce in the world
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Kat, do you think the place you work at would give a volume discount for us Tomatovillians?
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Old November 17, 2008   #6
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I don't know. Only one way to find out. Everyone can get together on "tomato business." Be sure everyone has some form of tomato shirt on. Pull tons of silly pranks then run around in the streets with hands in the air babbling incoherently. When the police come (and they will) tell them that the tomatos were talking to everyone and told you that if you didn't do these things then blight and pestulance would infect your garden. Be sure to stick that exact story with no changes. Be as loud as you want. I am guessing it would be a free feeling Just hope I am not your nurse because I am quick to medicate and can hit a moving target
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Old November 18, 2008   #7
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Haha! Hit a moving target! For the next 4 years you had better make your wallet a moving target that has stealth technology built into it. :-)

Next year the tax cut is going to revert back to 2001 rate which means that at least 2-4 thousand more will come out of YOUR paycheck if you make better than 40,000. Sorry for being so negative but the hand writing is on the wall. I'd rather be prepared than caught with my pants down. :-)

What has America come to? Our tax money is going to be welfare payments to pay for $18,000,000 a year for viagra for members of the largest union in the country? We just gave them $25 billion to retool. Now I really understand what "retool" means! Old saying says you can't get blood from a turnip, well that's wrong, us bunch of turnips that fell off the truck are going to be blead pretty darn good. Mark my words. Or should I say, "Highlight my words."

Grow more tomatoes! and other stuff too. Please, if you can, convince me I'm wrong. I need help. I feel like that Lil Abner character with the cloud over his head. Hopefully, in a couple years someone will revisit this thread and say, "See, Earl, you're an idiot for being such a worry wort." :-) I'm just worried about all of us.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...ow/2410348.cms
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Earl we all are worried. The ecomony is bad. Giving in to worry is only going to make our blood pressure go up. Then we need antidepressents and blood pressure medications and those cost a fortune as well. But there are other ways to look at it. We could live in a third or fourth world country. We could face being killed because of our beliefs. If the worst thing that happens is I loose all my financial belongings, I am doing good. All I can say is been there done that. You live through it. I grew up poor. There were times that we didn't have electricity or water. We did not have a telephone at all. I got married at 15 to get away from the house (it was a dangerous enviornment and I will leave it at that). Then my husband who works his butt off started a company. We had house, pool, very expensive sports car. I was about 22 at the time. We lost everything because the partner stole all the money. Now we are holding on due to medical bills. Taxes are going to go up. No way around it, but like I said, what doesn't kill you makes you grow. My father grew up in the depression. Others lived through the dust bowl. Lets not mention the plague that wiped out tons of people then there is the small pox epidemc? Polio? Spanish inquisition, Holocost? Bring on the taxes!!! Worst case senerio is we have a tea party in the harbor.
PS celibrated 26 years of marriage to the same man this past October.
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Kat, I hear you. But sometimes it's hard to keep a positive attitude humming along. The value of our house has dropped 30 or so percent in the last few months, eating up 10 years of payments. Those Administrations and Congressmen-women who forced the banks to make those bad loans, I'm sure their houses are paid for. I reckon I'm just mad as h$ll that we elect such idiots. We is our own worst enemy, as Pogo said. It appears that in general the country doesn't give a dam about the coming generations. If we Americans of today had to backup and take on WWII, we'd all be Nazi's right now. We may be speaking Chinese or Russian in a few years.

I came into the world without anything, guess I'll be leaving it the same way. I grew up under hardtimes too--40's-50's. When we got down to the last piece of fried fatback, Ma would tie a string on it, so if one of us kids swallowed it she'd pull it back out and pass it on to the next one. Being the youngest at the time, when it came my turn it was always well chewed. But I never would eat possum. :-)

Me and my better half had our 26 last April 3rd.
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Hey Earl, Buck up!! There is a re-ordering of the World going on today equalizing out the excesses in the U.S. with the "buy it now, pay later in next year" mindset that has become systemic in our culture.

Tomatovillians (is that a word?) seem to be pragmatic folk who will figure out how to be self-sufficient and survive hardship that is now pervasive. I only offer you this one photo of my grandson (in "germination") as evidence that hope springs eternal.



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Nice perspective Ray. Maybe the next generation can clean up our mess and I hope they don't cuss us out too bad, but I can't say I would blame them. Congrats on the forthcoming addition to the family!

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Ray he looks just like you!
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Kat, you saw the mustache too!!! Ami
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Kat, you saw the mustache too!!! Ami
Ami, I don't think Kat was referring to the "mustache".

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Congratulations Papa Ray and Family; I am certain Rosalina will be loved and cared for well!!
Our son and his wife are also expecting in mid March with a dear daughter. Nothing like having children nearby to share our love and hope and plans for the future! Keep us posted! Just think in another year or so you will have a little garden "helper" in the tomato patch!
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