Tomatoville® Gardening Forums


Notices

General information and discussion about cultivating onions, garlic, shallots and leeks.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old December 26, 2014   #1
ChristinaJo
Tomatovillian™
 
ChristinaJo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NE Texas
Posts: 425
Default Garlic mistakes I've made

The WORST mistake I've made is eating all the biggest bulbs and planting the rest.....
It made the bulb size go down. Now I save the best bulbs(rule applies for all other veggies and seeds) to replant.
The second is not having the knowledge of when to harvest and how to cure and store.
I'm grateful for this site and the people I learn from. I may never meet y'all, but I am truly blessed.
ChristinaJo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 26, 2014   #2
JJJessee
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Abingdon, Va
Posts: 184
Default

Amen.
Don't wash them, either.
Lost a lot of my first crop to maggot when drying in an outdoor shed in the woods.
They and onions need some truly dry preferably moving air to get them to a sweet moisture spot.
This year's garlic only had about 10% damage, which I used fresh. Onions, I lost >80% :-(
Yes, plant the big ones.
Try French Rose, a beautiful, mild hardneck.
JJJessee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 26, 2014   #3
Father'sDaughter
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MA/NH Border
Posts: 4,917
Default

And don't leave them out in full sun when drying. I made this mistake one year and they overheated--didn't store well at all.
Father'sDaughter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 26, 2014   #4
AlittleSalt
BANNED FOR LIFE
 
AlittleSalt's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 13,333
Default

I can plant a clove of garlic - and it grows an entire bulb smaller than the clove I planted. So don't do anything I do. Joking aside, only plant large bulbs. I wish I could give more advice, but I am just learning myself.
AlittleSalt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 26, 2014   #5
Zeedman
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 313
Default

I learned not to plant garlic on the low end of the garden. It can tolerate a lot of winter cold, but wet feet in Spring will cause heavy losses. A foot of standing water qualifies as "wet feet".

Provide plenty of drainage (plant on raised beds if necessary) and cover with a good layer of hay to reduce both weeds and frost heave.

After digging, I dry the garlic in the garden initially, until the soil on the roots crumbles off easily. I protect it from the sun by covering it with some of the hay that it was mulched with. Once I've removed the excess soil, the garlic gets hung up to cure in an unheated shed.

Last edited by Zeedman; December 26, 2014 at 09:29 PM.
Zeedman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 26, 2014   #6
Worth1
Tomatovillian™
 
Worth1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Den of Drunken Fools
Posts: 38,539
Default

Treat the garlic as you would a new born baby after is is pulled.
It bruises easily.

Worth
Worth1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 26, 2014   #7
PhilaGardener
Tomatovillian™
 
PhilaGardener's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Near Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 1,940
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeedman View Post
A foot of standing water qualifies as "wet feet".
Maybe you should try rice instead!
PhilaGardener is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 26, 2014   #8
jmsieglaff
Tomatovillian™
 
jmsieglaff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Southern WI
Posts: 2,742
Default

Not planting enough! It always goes fast in our house.
jmsieglaff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 4, 2015   #9
ChristinaJo
Tomatovillian™
 
ChristinaJo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NE Texas
Posts: 425
Default

I grow Rose de Lautrec and Rose de Violette from France. That's why I could kick myself for eating the bigger cloves. I am hoping they'll size up again.

Is the French Rose the same thing or another variety?
ChristinaJo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 4, 2015   #10
JJJessee
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Abingdon, Va
Posts: 184
Default

I'm not adept at garlic ID. Mine seem a little less flatten than the Rose de Lautrec picture I found. I could not find a Rose de Violette photo.



These show much more purplish-rose when another wrapper layer is removed.


French Rose
JJJessee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 4, 2015   #11
ChristinaJo
Tomatovillian™
 
ChristinaJo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NE Texas
Posts: 425
Default

Beautiful! Nice!
ChristinaJo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 5, 2015   #12
peppero
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: selmer, tn
Posts: 2,944
Default

I think I planted my first garlic from store bought stuff and added to it over a period of time. The parents of a former high school student passed away and they had an established place for garlic that was huge. He told me to get all I wanted and I got quite a bit and ended giving starts to a lot of people. I really enjoy the harvest each year and leave quite a bit in the ground and it just keeps on producing and I just keep on enjoying it and giving it away. Wonderful stuff.

jon
peppero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 8, 2015   #13
bjbebs
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: illinois
Posts: 281
Default

I've grown and marketed the same garlic strain for 30 years. I live in central Illinois.
Just a few observations that may help someone.
Plant out Sept 10- Oct 10 [2-4 inches deep]
Mulch lightly with mowed leaves
As plants emerge add more leaves
Tops will appear to go dormant sometime in Dec
Roots will continue to grow until ground freezes hard
Garlic will come out of dormancy in March
Scapes will begin to show in early June [snap or cut these off as they grow]
Garlic must be harvested during a dry spell [usually around July 10]
Dry off the ground, in the shade and under cover
After 3 weeks, clean up the plant and cut neck to an inch or so
The plant still needs to cure a while longer for optimum storage
This garlic is grown free of chemicals - leaves, horse manure and cover crops only.
This strain will keep without sprouting for 8-10 months if cured properly.
Raised beds are a great help as garlic hates wet feet.
As Christina Jo mentioned only the largest cloves will be used for the following years crop.
Outside of planting, harvesting and drying down, garlic requires no attention. It is virtually fool proof. I'll harvest fist sized bulbs every year that keep for months. Is there another crop other than winter squash or root crops that can be used fresh for so long? I grow everything under the sun in a very large garden. As much as I love tomatoes, greens and cole crops I simply could not live without garlic.
bjbebs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 8, 2015   #14
Cole_Robbie
Tomatovillian™
 
Cole_Robbie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Illinois, zone 6
Posts: 8,407
Default

I've never grown it. How does growing your own garlic compare to buying it from the grocery store, as far as eating it goes? I always just thought garlic was garlic, but a lot of people think that about tomatoes, too. I eat a lot of garlic, but I buy a huge 3 lb container of chopped garlic at Sam's for $11. It's so cheap that I never thought about growing my own.
Cole_Robbie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 8, 2015   #15
Father'sDaughter
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MA/NH Border
Posts: 4,917
Default

For me personally, since I started growing my own hardneck garlic, supermarket garlic seems to have some sort of funky off flavor or is often just bland. I find that hardneck has more flavor, can have a good amount of heat depending on the variety and is juicier. As a bonus, it grows scapes! Since I started making scape pesto, I haven't even bothered with basil pesto.

I've never grown a softneck, so I don't know how that would compare with the supermarket garlic which all tends to be softneck.

Not only does it require little in the way of care while growing, saving seed stock to replant is a piece of cake!
Father'sDaughter is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:58 PM.


★ Tomatoville® is a registered trademark of Commerce Holdings, LLC ★ All Content ©2022 Commerce Holdings, LLC ★