Color Predictability

[Fred Hempel]

No. It is complex.

This is not a choice between simple and pixie dust. Complexity is not fugazi (false). It is what it is.

Originally Posted by snugglekitten

So back to square one. Its all....a fugazi......pixy dust.

[maf]

Originally Posted by Fusion_power

Until you grow the seed out from a salmon colored tomato that was supposed to be Cherokee Green and get red, yellow, orange, pink, and green offspring. I'm still working through the genetics 7 years later to understand how this could happen.

That's an easy one...

[snugglekitten]

Originally Posted by maf

That's an easy one...

Its an Aeternal Mystery of Aetherial Proportions.

Don't let the rationalists of the Englightments confound you with their lewd ratiocinations.

[Darren Abbey]

Originally Posted by Fred Hempel

No. It is complex.

This is not a choice between simple and pixie dust. Complexity is not fugazi (false). It is what it is.

Agreed.

The complexity takes some focus, record keeping, and numbers to sort out... but it is well within what a person can do.

[Fred Hempel]

My approach is a little different. Select until there is no variability left.

Sometimes I notice general patterns, but I am not particularly interested in the specifics of inheritance. Just getting to uniformity (if it continues to be "worth it").

Originally Posted by Darren Abbey

Agreed.

The complexity takes some focus, record keeping, and numbers to sort out... but it is well within what a person can do.

[PNW_D]

this is a grow out I find fascinating ....

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w..._Yellow_Strain

[Darren Abbey]

Originally Posted by Fred Hempel

My approach is a little different. Select until there is no variability left.

Sometimes I notice general patterns, but I am not particularly interested in the specifics of inheritance. Just getting to uniformity (if it continues to be "worth it").

I'm just getting started as a tomato breeder and I'm professionally trained as a geneticist, so I find it amusing to work through the genetics calculations. I have the notion that they provide me with insights as to what is going on... but really, only time will tell if those insights are real or will-o-wisps.

[snugglekitten]

Originally Posted by Darren Abbey

I'm just getting started as a tomato breeder and I'm professionally trained as a geneticist, so I find it amusing to work through the genetics calculations. I have the notion that they provide me with insights as to what is going on... but really, only time will tell if those insights are real or will-o-wisps.

Thats what I'm trying to say, but I'm not a geneticist.


The way I look at it, it wouldn't take tens of thousands of crosses by trained plant breeders to make a sungold if it were different.

Too many variables for the human mind to comprehend at once, just like the stock market going up or down, nature has a complete picture of things where as the human mind, while increasing in logic due to accumulated science, may never be able to predict the future in terms of complete genetic implications.