Trying Beduin this year

ScottinAtlanta · January 8, 2015

Going through my older seeds, found a pack of Beduin that I have never tried. Does anyone like this one? It was commented on extensively about two years ago, became a fad, and then disappeared.

Salsacharley · January 8, 2015

I'm trying Bedouin from J & L Gardens this year. It doesn't look the same as the Beduin on Tania's site. Bedouin looks very similar to Japanese Black Trifele. Tania doesn't have a "Bedouin".

http://jandlgardens.com/catalog/inde...eyword=bedouin

ScottinAtlanta · January 16, 2015

Boosting this back up - hoping to get more information about what to expect.

Andrey_BY · January 16, 2015

Beduin (or Bedouin) has got blackish-red pear shaped fruit (80-300 g) like at J & L photo and bigger.
There are some irregular shaped fruit as well. Prolific. Russian CV

greenthumbomaha · January 17, 2015

I grew Bedouin years ago its easily got a high spot on my top 10. Highly productive and shrugged off disease and heat. Ironically all the seeds I started ended up in my mystery box to the garden club ladies so it was absent form my garden last summer. Imagine my surprise when someone actually brought a tomato to one of the late summer meetings and requested I grow it for the plant exchange next year. Another lady that received it chimed in wanting it again too. Then a third ... hopefully with better labeling so I get at least one.

Why this particular tomato? It has a great rich flavor and the grower made a terrific tomato juice and canned several quarts. I use it for fresh eating (yummy on a blt, holds that deep flavor coming thru the bacon) and making sauce. Its also a really beautiful plant in the garden.

My seeds were from Lee, and tomatoes look browner than the picture above. All were large and pear shaped.

- Lisa

ScottinAtlanta · January 17, 2015

Thanks to all who answered - this one looks exciting. I cannot find a smaller black tomato that produces well here in Atlanta, so maybe this is the one.

natural · January 17, 2015

Scott,

I am 45 minutes north of you.

Over the years, I have had the most success with Black Pear, Sara Black (mine average 6oz), and Japense Trifele Black, in that order.

I haven't grown Beduin.

Bill

Garf · January 17, 2015

I would be very interested to see if this would survive a Miami summer. Very few do.

Andrey_BY · January 18, 2015

Yaponskiy Tryuffel Chornyi (Japanese Trifele Black) is an excellent Russian CV as well.

ScottinAtlanta · January 18, 2015

I like Japanese Trifele Black a lot for its flavor, but I have not had high production from it. It does not set well in high temps, at least for me.

Andrey_BY · January 18, 2015

That's because it is for cool climates mostly like where it was invented (St.Peterburg, Russia)

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Originally Posted by ScottinAtlanta

I like Japanese Trifele Black a lot for its flavor, but I have not had high production from it. It does not set well in high temps, at least for me.

March 3, 2016

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Originally Posted by Garf

I would be very interested to see if this would survive a Miami summer. Very few do.

You might try high anthocyanin tomatoes in Miami (especially the ones where the anthocyanin is in the leaves, too). These tomatoes should reflect UV rays better. Miami has perhaps the highest UV index in the country (or pretty close). UV rays can damage plants (and make them more nutritious, too). So, if you try blue tomatoes, they should reflect more of the UV rays instead of being damaged by them all.

Lucid Gem might be a good choice, since it's also heat-tolerant. I'm not sure if it gets the color in the leaves, too, though.

I'm not sure if 'black' tomatoes are any better at reflecting UV rays, though, but blue ones should be.

I'm not sure what other blue tomatoes are heat-tolerant (and which ones have coloring on the leaves), but you might experiment with Helsing ★★★★★★★★ Blues, Jackie, Fahrenheit Blues, Black Beauty, Dancing with Smurfs, and others.

greenthumbomaha · August 5, 2016

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Originally Posted by Garf

I would be very interested to see if this would survive a Miami summer. Very few do.

It's a million degrees here and this is doing great. I'd give it a try in Miami.

I'm getting a lot of doubles. This didn't happen last year. Twice the yum.

Garf · August 6, 2016

I tried it. It did not do well in Miami.

January 8, 2015	#1
ScottinAtlanta Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 2,593	Trying Beduin this year Going through my older seeds, found a pack of Beduin that I have never tried. Does anyone like this one? It was commented on extensively about two years ago, became a fad, and then disappeared.

January 16, 2015	#4
Andrey_BY Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Minsk, Belarus, Eastern Europe (Zone 4a) Posts: 2,278	Beduin (or Bedouin) has got blackish-red pear shaped fruit (80-300 g) like at J & L photo and bigger. There are some irregular shaped fruit as well. Prolific. Russian CV __________________ 1 kg=2.2 lb , 1 m=39,37 in , 1 oz=28.35 g , 1 ft=30.48 cm , 1 lb= 0,4536 kg , 1 in=2.54 cm , 1 l = 0.26 gallon , 0 C=32 F Andrey a.k.a. TOMATODOR

January 17, 2015	#5
greenthumbomaha Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Omaha Zone 5 Posts: 2,514	I grew Bedouin years ago its easily got a high spot on my top 10. Highly productive and shrugged off disease and heat. Ironically all the seeds I started ended up in my mystery box to the garden club ladies so it was absent form my garden last summer. Imagine my surprise when someone actually brought a tomato to one of the late summer meetings and requested I grow it for the plant exchange next year. Another lady that received it chimed in wanting it again too. Then a third ... hopefully with better labeling so I get at least one. Why this particular tomato? It has a great rich flavor and the grower made a terrific tomato juice and canned several quarts. I use it for fresh eating (yummy on a blt, holds that deep flavor coming thru the bacon) and making sauce. Its also a really beautiful plant in the garden. My seeds were from Lee, and tomatoes look browner than the picture above. All were large and pear shaped. - Lisa Last edited by greenthumbomaha; January 17, 2015 at 05:54 AM. Reason: oy vey, spelling of tomato name was and might still be incorrect

January 18, 2015	#9
Andrey_BY Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Minsk, Belarus, Eastern Europe (Zone 4a) Posts: 2,278	Yaponskiy Tryuffel Chornyi (Japanese Trifele Black) is an excellent Russian CV as well. __________________ 1 kg=2.2 lb , 1 m=39,37 in , 1 oz=28.35 g , 1 ft=30.48 cm , 1 lb= 0,4536 kg , 1 in=2.54 cm , 1 l = 0.26 gallon , 0 C=32 F Andrey a.k.a. TOMATODOR

January 8, 2015	#2
Salsacharley Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2013 Location: New Mexico Posts: 2,052	I'm trying Bedouin from J & L Gardens this year. It doesn't look the same as the Beduin on Tania's site. Bedouin looks very similar to Japanese Black Trifele. Tania doesn't have a "Bedouin". http://jandlgardens.com/catalog/inde...eyword=bedouin

January 17, 2015	#7
natural Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North GA Posts: 530	Scott, I am 45 minutes north of you. Over the years, I have had the most success with Black Pear, Sara Black (mine average 6oz), and Japense Trifele Black, in that order. I haven't grown Beduin. Bill

January 17, 2015	#8
Garf Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Miami, FL. Posts: 442	I would be very interested to see if this would survive a Miami summer. Very few do.

August 6, 2016	#14
Garf Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Miami, FL. Posts: 442	I tried it. It did not do well in Miami.