Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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June 20, 2017 | #31 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Romania/Germany , z 4-6
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I see no one mentioned Masktoka. It is really good, in fact it is one of the best reds, determinate or not. A sort of mini beefsteak I would say, on somewhat rugose leafed plant, more like a dwarf than a normal plant.
EDIT: looking on google, looks like I don't have the real thing. they should apparently be round, or according to tatiana even oval, not flattened (I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be bigger than a cherry though, I think her seeds were wrong). And no mention of rugose leaf. Hm. I got my seeds from Reinhard Kraft, I was convinced it was the real thing. Unlikely to be crossed, as all seeds gave the same result, and it is determinate. Last edited by zipcode; June 20, 2017 at 03:41 AM. |
June 20, 2017 | #32 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Houston Zone 9A
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Being new to tomato gardening I am going to try a few listed. For me I am realizing I would like some shorter plants. My indeterminate are at 5-6 foot and will grow taller than my privacy fence and is more difficult to net for birds. I planted Somerset and Phoenix for heat tolerance and they are only 3-4 ft tall max with good production. The flavor is good if allowed to fully ripen. So include heat tolerance as another category.
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June 20, 2017 | #33 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Houston Zone 9A
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I have Somerset and Phoenix because of heat tolerance. They have produced well and taste good if you ensure its fully ripe. having a privacy fence I am figuring out my indeterminate's are growing above the fence.
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June 20, 2017 | #34 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Houston Zone 9A
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sorry for duplicate msg. I thought my first did not post..
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June 20, 2017 | #35 | |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Ontario
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June 20, 2017 | #36 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Abilene, TX zone 7
Posts: 1,478
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I am growing MoCross Elgin #9. It is a determinate and is very tasty. It is also very productive. Worth a try for sure.
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June 20, 2017 | #37 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Greenville, South Carolina
Posts: 3,099
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I cant find Cole seeds, anyone know a distributor?
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June 20, 2017 | #38 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Central Illinois
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June 20, 2017 | #39 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Illinois, zone 6
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Yeah, I have some. My step-dad has a high tunnel full of Cole right now. I need to get some more fruit for seed.
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June 20, 2017 | #40 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Vancouver Island
Posts: 5,918
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Cole was early but sure doesn't win any prizes for best tasting tomato
Karen O |
June 20, 2017 | #41 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: MA
Posts: 4,958
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The thread title is an oxymoron.
That's just the humble opinion of this non-oxy moron. |
June 20, 2017 | #42 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Vancouver Island
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Of the available options, the best tasting. That's not an impossible question.
KarenO Perhaps I shall have to make one won't I. |
June 20, 2017 | #43 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: MA
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Can there be a best of relatively lousy tasting tomatoes?
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June 20, 2017 | #44 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Vancouver Island
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Lol yes, I think so. But not the ones bred to be early, for the most part I dont think flavour was even the slightest consideration in the mad pursuit of the almighty "early" tomato.
I think adding potato leaf to a determinate will help because I believe that pl foliage is linked to enhanced flavour. Just a theory but I believe absolutely that determinate and spitter are not synonymous but I don't think attention is paid to flavour by breeders. Always diseases and earlieness, shippability for market seem to supercede flavour as priorities. Exploring old determinate varieties myself, many must be good, from when folks cared about flavour more than how well they artificially ripen. Old garden tomatoes as opposed to market/ mechanized harvest varieties. |
June 20, 2017 | #45 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: NewYork 5a
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I just zipped through Sandhill's A to Z list of tomatoes and was surprised how many i
have tried over the years. (this was back when we had a hard frost in late August and thought i needed to try speedier ripening tomatoes)...earlies and anything with Northern sounding names. I'm a bit over that now as others do so well i don't need the Arctic ones. Polar, etc. That year i was pulling out entire plants and hanging them all over the barn. ....short lived experiment. U of Idaho and Minnesota had some promising varieties. Not many made it for me. Sophie's choice, Bison, Manitoba...trying Scotia this year. I'll be driving through NovaScotia next week and stop at a big veg market. They always have a few good ones for sale but no listed names. (local farms). Not fond of saving seeds from those but driving blind landrace style might be the way to go. |
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