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Old July 12, 2020   #1
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Default Madera F1 (cherry)

This is my first time growing Madera. When is it best picked and when does it have the best flavor?

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Old July 12, 2020   #2
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Pick at brick-red to brown. It ripens very slowly if you pick earlier, but it hangs at brick-red brown for days without getting over ripe.
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Thanks. I am very pleased with Madera thus far. Very flavorful. Only a little splitting after a rain. Looks like it will be a "keeper."
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Thanks. I am very pleased with Madera thus far. Very flavorful. Only a little splitting after a rain. Looks like it will be a "keeper."
That's great!
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I was keeping a few Madeira F1 in a little bowl, with a view to ripening them well before tasting. I had to pick them early because of rain in the forecast. Hubby used them this morning in our cooked breakfast and they were very tasty cooked! Guess I'll have to wait some more before I can do a true taste test.......
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Cooked? Interesting.

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I was keeping a few Madeira F1 in a little bowl, with a view to ripening them well before tasting. I had to pick them early because of rain in the forecast. Hubby used them this morning in our cooked breakfast and they were very tasty cooked! Guess I'll have to wait some more before I can do a true taste test.......
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Oh yes. He grabs any kind of tomatoes to fry, along with our weekend bacon and egg .

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I can definitely see the hybrid vigor. I planted mine late and am just now starting to pick.
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I can definitely see the hybrid vigor. I planted mine late and am just now starting to pick.
Seconded! Madera is a really vigorous plant. Best tolerance of Septoria for me this season. And tremendous yields! Imagine what it could do if I really took care of it.

I should add -- love the slightly crunchy texture and excellent shelf life.

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I'm loving Madeira F1 too. I stood in front of the bush the other day gorging myself on them. It's a very productive and healthy variety and even the slight crunchiness is no deterrent .

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I'm loving Madeira F1 too. I stood in front of the bush the other day gorging myself on them. It's a very productive and healthy variety and even the slight crunchiness is no deterrent .

Linda
I second your experience Linda, Madera is definitely returning next year in my garden!
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I second your experience Linda, Madera is definitely returning next year in my garden!
Remember folks. Madera is a hybrid. I can personally guarantee that it will segregate dramatically for multiple traits.

So, if you want the same Madera experience, you will have to buy F1 seed again.

Unless you saved some of the original F1 seed.

One final note: The extended shelf-life trait can not be dehybridized. Because it depends on one "rin" parent, and one normally ripening parent.

Nonetheless, dehybridation is perfectly fine with me. I have no problem with it at all.
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Have you considered using "alc" instead of "rin"? The shelf life is better.
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Have you considered using "alc" instead of "rin"? The shelf life is better.
I have not. Because rin seems to be giving more than enough shelf life, and I have been able to select for flavor in rin lines.

I am not ruling out that I may have some lines with weak alleles of alc, because I have some lines that have weaker increase in shelf life. But I am not consciously adding alc lines. Do you have any with great flavor?
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Most of the Italian and Spanish "hanging" tomatoes have alc. Piennolo del Vesuvio is the only one I have that likely carries this gene. It has to be homozygous to give best effect. I can put a Piennolo tomato on the counter and leave it there for a month with little or no change. I've eaten them at 3 months old that were slightly wrinkled from moisture loss, but otherwise tasted like a garden fresh tomato.

I have fresh seed if you would like to trial it. Also, Piennolo is potato leaf which makes most crosses easy to verify.
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